On Tue, Jul 9, 2024, 7:48 AM John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 4:20 PM Jason Resch <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> *> If consciousness is necessary for intelligence* [...]
>>
>
> Consciousness is the inevitable product of intelligence, it is not the
> cause of intelligence.
>


I didn't say it was the cause, I said it is a prerequisite. You
conveniently (for you but not for me) ignored and deleted my explanation in
your reply.

Jason

And as I cannot emphasize enough, natural selection can't select for
> something it can't see and it can't see consciousness, but natural
> selection CAN see intelligent actions. And you know for a fact that natural
> selection has managed to produce at least one conscious being and probably
> mini billions of them.
> Don't you understand how those two facts are telling you something that is
> philosophically important?
>
>
>> > *If on the other hand, consciousness is just a useless byproduct, then
>> it could (logically if not nomologically) be eliminated without affecting
>> intelligent.*
>>
>
> That would not be possible if it's a brute fact that consciousness is the
> way data feels when it is being processed.
>
> John K Clark
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