On Tue, Jul 9, 2024, 7:48 AM John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 8, 2024 at 4:20 PM Jason Resch <[email protected]> wrote: > > *> If consciousness is necessary for intelligence* [...] >> > > Consciousness is the inevitable product of intelligence, it is not the > cause of intelligence. > I didn't say it was the cause, I said it is a prerequisite. You conveniently (for you but not for me) ignored and deleted my explanation in your reply. Jason And as I cannot emphasize enough, natural selection can't select for > something it can't see and it can't see consciousness, but natural > selection CAN see intelligent actions. And you know for a fact that natural > selection has managed to produce at least one conscious being and probably > mini billions of them. > Don't you understand how those two facts are telling you something that is > philosophically important? > > >> > *If on the other hand, consciousness is just a useless byproduct, then >> it could (logically if not nomologically) be eliminated without affecting >> intelligent.* >> > > That would not be possible if it's a brute fact that consciousness is the > way data feels when it is being processed. > > John K Clark > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv1i%2BParGqA%2Bcy%3D-HpirKE%3DX_Y58UEgeCy4-ORRbOfH3Mw%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv1i%2BParGqA%2Bcy%3D-HpirKE%3DX_Y58UEgeCy4-ORRbOfH3Mw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CA%2BBCJUgB6uYufPQFJLZaSOw8egoOxfMKOrqGdDp-PUMK9SruJw%40mail.gmail.com.

