On Monday, September 16, 2024 at 11:36:13 AM UTC-6 John Clark wrote:


On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 10:54 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:

*> At t = 0, what an infinite universe in spatial extent implies; namely, 
no big bang, since that would require creating infinite spatial extent 
instantaneously*

 
*Neither Quantum Mechanics nor General Relativity can explain how something 
with infinite spatial extent could instantaneously come into existence at 
t=0, but they can't explain how something with finite spatial extent could 
do so either.  If we can ever find a way to stop those two theories from 
fighting each other, maybe we could figure it out.*


*> Another way to look at it is this; if the universe was finite in spatial 
extent when the BB occurred, it will always remain finite, but if it was 
infinite in spatial extent when the BB "occurred", it was always infinite*


*As I said in my previous post, if it's infinite now then it was infinite 
at the time of the Big Bang, and if it was finite then it's finite now.*

*> and the BB didn't occur.*


*That does not compute.  *


While it's true that our theories cannot explain the *creation* of a finite 
or infinite universe, our measurements indicate an expanding universe. But 
an infinite universe cannot expand, so if one exists, it was uncreated. 
Thus no BB for an infinite universe. AG 


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