On Tuesday, September 17, 2024 at 4:57:12 AM UTC-6 John Clark wrote:

On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 11:46 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:

> How would you map (0,1) 1-1 onto the real numbers?


*F(x)=1/2 + 1/π Arctan(x) . The domain is all the real numbers and the 
range is (0.1)*


*> This map isn't 1-1. Many x's correspond to the same point in (0,1). AG *


*This is a graph of the Arctan function. Show me many X's, or even one 
X, that corresponds to the same point in y.*


*I'll get back to you on this. I was thinking, as x increases positively or 
negatively, the y values (angles) repeat multiple times, making the 
function many-to-one. In this case, we're mapping all the real numbers, to 
a subset of the y-axis. Am I mistaken? AG *


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*>> If a set is infinitely large then there is a proper subset of that set 
that can be put into a one to one correspondence with the entire set, in 
fact that is the mathematical definition of "infinity".*


*> That's circular. AG *


*>I deleted the post with the circular comment. Why are you responding to 
it? AG*


*I responded to your email. Apparently you thought you knew a way to delete 
an email that was already on my computer or delete my memory of reading 
that email. Neither worked.   *


*I deleted it from the List, wherever it's located. AG *


*>  an infinite universe cannot be created. If one exists, it is 
eternal. The reason is because the creation would require something 
non-physical; infinite spatial expansion instantaneously. So no BB for a 
spatially infinite universe.*

 
*I will now quote somebody named Alan Grayson "You keep doing the same 
thing; asserting a result without proving it " *


*Actually, I did prove it, above. When a universe is created, or shall we 
say "comes into being" it can either be finite or infinite. If it's alleged 
to be infinite but doesn't include some spatial points, that would be a 
contradiction to the assumption that it's infinite, and thus it must be 
finite (since, as we agree, a universe cannot transform from finite to 
infinite, or vis-versa). OTOH, if it's really infinite and includes all of 
space, it couldn't have reached that state through any progressive 
evolution, as that would make it finite. So, if the universe is really 
infinite, it must be eternally infinite since it can't evolve to that 
state. Not every proof is mathematical. This one's based solely on logic. 
AG*


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