On Saturday, November 9, 2024 at 4:39:37 AM UTC-7 John Clark wrote:
On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 9:40 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: *>>> Why do you characterize the explanation of the possible insufficiency of our concept of space, a NON-local hidden variable?* *>> Because if an event occurred 4 light years away and happened LESS than 4 years ago and yet it still affected you then that affect was non-local, because that's what "non-local" means. Is such an affect possible, does Quantum Mechanics permit it? Nobody knows, but if I were betting I would bet not.* *> Your first sentence requires IMO, more precision. Please re-write it.* *No.* >Are you referring to faster-than-SoL phenomenom? Obviously. You're too cocky. No. Not faster than SoL, but instantaneous. Entangled particles are non-separable. AG v q *> Two observers can't send information to each other because neither knows what will come up in a coin flip if the outcome is modeled quantum mechanically, that is irreducibly random , but each element of a pair of entangled particles can send information to its partner** [faster than light] * *Maybe. If somebody can prove that is true then we will know that Quantum Mechanics is non-local, and the violation of Bell's Inequality does not rule out non-local hidden variables, it only rules out local hidden variables. * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/69b585b3-13ee-45e5-9101-1e9b61238259n%40googlegroups.com.

