On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 7:05 PM smitra <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 22-11-2024 06:40, Brent Meeker wrote:
>
> > That's what is ruled out by violation of Bell's inequality.
>
> Bells' theorem doesn't apply to QM,


I think it is about time that you read Bell's papers.  His theorem is not
about hidden variable theories, or non-local theories. He assumes, for the
purposes of argument, a local theory. He then derives a series of
inequalities that such a local theory must satisfy. Experimentally, these
inequalities are violated. Inspection of standard QM gives results that
agree with experiment, but these results also require non-locality. The
conclusion drawn from these experiments is that quantum mechanics, itself,
is non-local.

Bruce

it's a theorem about deterministic
> hidden variable theories that says that certain correlations like some
> of those of QM cannot be reproduced by any local hidden variable theory.
> The relevance of Bell's theorem to QM is only that it rules out that if
> QM is not fundamental and has an underlying hidden variable theory, then
> that hidden variable theory cannot be local.
>
> So, if we then assume that QM is fundamental, then there is no objection
> against QM being local. Getting to non-local states via local dynamics
> isn't a problem as this is routinely done in experiments where entangled
> spin pairs are created. Nothing non-local goes on as far as the dynamics
> is concerned in such experiments.
>
> Saibal
>

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