On Saturday, December 14, 2024 at 9:09:01 PM UTC-7 Brent Meeker wrote:
On 12/14/2024 7:46 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: I meant I hadn't considered the ordering you postulated as effecting simultaneity. By "fit", I always meant the ordering you described, *and* that the paradox is alive and well under such ordering. Moreover, I don't see why in the car frame we can't have the phenomenon synchronized with the garage frame, so the observers see the same thing, at the same time, which IMO implies a paradox. A'sG They can't see the same events at the same time because they are moving relative to one another and light has a finite velocity. Brent But there's only one phenomenon to observe, from different points of view. So finite light speed shouldn't be a problem. Note that each frame has its own set of synchronized clocks. Can't clocks in different frames be sychronized so a direct comparison is possible? More important, after v gets to a sufficient velocity, at all increased velocities of the car the frames will disagree about fitting of car in garage. You seem to think this isn't a problem since the phenomena are not time-synched. Why no problem from the pov of a paradox or contradiction? TY, AG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/e3c02ce3-5421-4cce-9b8c-f698a2781e38n%40googlegroups.com.

