that would be true for the BB server which is way limited ...

Good's product.. NOPE... I setup a unit and that's it (like one time cradel
for setup) the only time I have to cradle afetr is too update the software
version on the unit..and they are working on the ability to push the sw
updates to the unit's.
it's all wireless ...sweet...

my guy's do not have cradles.... it would not work with the way many of my
people get their desktops'

check it out it rock's

bill
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Blackberry Desktop Manager causes Outlook 2k to start in
offl ine mode


You still need the desktop piece to allow users to handle syncs,
software upgrades and changing their rule sets.

--------------------------------------------------------------
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 9:11 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Blackberry Desktop Manager causes Outlook 2k to 
> start in offl ine mode
> 
> 
> Why dont you just get the server product and dump the gludgy desktop
> redir... it nice and all for like 1 or 2 people but beyond 
> that its a bit of
> a bite
> 
> better yet...get Good Technologies solution and you get Sync'd E-mail,
> Contacts, Calendar, etc...just like have you total OL with 
> you..it's nice!
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 8:50 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Blackberry Desktop Manager causes Outlook 2k to start in
> offl ine mode
> 
> 
> Thanks for the tip. I think we could create a "blackberry" 
> group of users on
> our domain (nt4) and then test to see if they are in that 
> group in the login
> script to determine whether to launch the desktop manager or not.  
> 
> Tom 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 7:52 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Blackberry Desktop Manager causes Outlook 2k to 
> start in offl
> ine mode
> 
> We take the Desktop Manager out of the Startup folder and 
> instead launch it
> from our logon script, so it doesn't start when people are out of the
> office. 
> 
> -Peter
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf 
> Of Alverson,
> Tom
> Sent: Thursday, 25 March, 2004 11:51
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Blackberry Desktop Manager causes Outlook 2k to 
> start in offline
> mode
> 
> 
>  We have a few users with laptops and blackberries who like 
> to dial in.  We
> have a special dial in modem bank that can access the RPC ports of our
> Exchange 5.5 server.  If they have the Blackberry desktop 
> manager loading at
> startup, it tries to connect to the exchange server and 
> decides that it is
> offline.  When they dial in to this connection and then 
> launch Outlook, the
> mapi spooler is already loaded (by the blackberry desktop 
> manager) and has
> already decided that the computer is offline.  
> 
> Right now we have to tell them to quit the Blackberry desktop 
> manager, then
> dial in, then launch Outlook.  If they need to cradle the 
> Blackberry, then
> they must manually launch the desktop manager.  Since they 
> use the laptops
> direct connected to our LAN 95% of the time, it is good to 
> have the desktop
> manager in the startup group.
> 
> Is there a better way to handle this?
> 
> Tom
> 
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