Regardless of that, you still need some way to update the forwarding rules -
which is aprt of the desktop software.

Not sure if you know this, but there are two versions of the BB client
software - one of which is specifically designed to work with the server
software.

--------------------------------------------------------------
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 9:22 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Blackberry Desktop Manager causes Outlook 2k to 
> start in offl ine mode
> 
> 
> 
> that would be true for the BB server which is way limited ...
> 
> Good's product.. NOPE... I setup a unit and that's it (like 
> one time cradel
> for setup) the only time I have to cradle afetr is too update 
> the software
> version on the unit..and they are working on the ability to 
> push the sw
> updates to the unit's.
> it's all wireless ...sweet...
> 
> my guy's do not have cradles.... it would not work with the 
> way many of my
> people get their desktops'
> 
> check it out it rock's
> 
> bill
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 9:17 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Blackberry Desktop Manager causes Outlook 2k to start in
> offl ine mode
> 
> 
> You still need the desktop piece to allow users to handle syncs,
> software upgrades and changing their rule sets.
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis Inc.
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 9:11 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Blackberry Desktop Manager causes Outlook 2k to 
> > start in offl ine mode
> > 
> > 
> > Why dont you just get the server product and dump the gludgy desktop
> > redir... it nice and all for like 1 or 2 people but beyond 
> > that its a bit of
> > a bite
> > 
> > better yet...get Good Technologies solution and you get 
> Sync'd E-mail,
> > Contacts, Calendar, etc...just like have you total OL with 
> > you..it's nice!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 8:50 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Blackberry Desktop Manager causes Outlook 2k 
> to start in
> > offl ine mode
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks for the tip. I think we could create a "blackberry" 
> > group of users on
> > our domain (nt4) and then test to see if they are in that 
> > group in the login
> > script to determine whether to launch the desktop manager or not.  
> > 
> > Tom 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 7:52 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Blackberry Desktop Manager causes Outlook 2k to 
> > start in offl
> > ine mode
> > 
> > We take the Desktop Manager out of the Startup folder and 
> > instead launch it
> > from our logon script, so it doesn't start when people are 
> out of the
> > office. 
> > 
> > -Peter
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf 
> > Of Alverson,
> > Tom
> > Sent: Thursday, 25 March, 2004 11:51
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Blackberry Desktop Manager causes Outlook 2k to 
> > start in offline
> > mode
> > 
> > 
> >  We have a few users with laptops and blackberries who like 
> > to dial in.  We
> > have a special dial in modem bank that can access the RPC 
> ports of our
> > Exchange 5.5 server.  If they have the Blackberry desktop 
> > manager loading at
> > startup, it tries to connect to the exchange server and 
> > decides that it is
> > offline.  When they dial in to this connection and then 
> > launch Outlook, the
> > mapi spooler is already loaded (by the blackberry desktop 
> > manager) and has
> > already decided that the computer is offline.  
> > 
> > Right now we have to tell them to quit the Blackberry desktop 
> > manager, then
> > dial in, then launch Outlook.  If they need to cradle the 
> > Blackberry, then
> > they must manually launch the desktop manager.  Since they 
> > use the laptops
> > direct connected to our LAN 95% of the time, it is good to 
> > have the desktop
> > manager in the startup group.
> > 
> > Is there a better way to handle this?
> > 
> > Tom
> > 
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