Goodlink = Best Mobile Mail Ever. We were BES customers, as soon as Cingular showed us Goodlink, we bought the crossgrade special that they offered and never looked back. It will be really sweet once they complete the upgrades over the air functionality. That is the only maintenance item that can be a pain currently for my users in other cities.
As far as their platform goes, it just plain works. It is great on the RIM957's and G100's and even better on the Treo's with documents to go to work with attachments. The upcoming Pocket PC support will give us even more carrier and device options. Miles ------------------------------ Miles Holt, MCP Network Engineer Summit Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770-303-0426 ------------------------------ "Show me a completely smooth operation and I'll show you someone who's covering mistakes. Real boats rock." - Frank Herbert, "Chapterhouse: Dune" -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mellott, Bill Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 11:26 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Blackberry Desktop Manager causes Outlook 2k to start in offl ine mode What forwarding rules?? 1.)I was just comparing it to the Good Server I have running... 2.)my one time install of the Desktop Redir.... for a person who had no exchange server 3.)and my trial of the BB Biz server (compared to my Good server)...where the only thing the Biz server did was sync e-mail wirelessly...you had to cradle for all other sync With the Server product..the server should do ALL the redirection..and NO client should be required. Except in the case of the BB Biz server which (last I tried and talked to them) requires a client on the users desktop to sync for Contacts....etc..other stuff.. In the Good Technology.. my server does it all....no rules etc... it just sync's to the users exchange account..pure server to server communication.. I do NOT load ANY software on my client workstations as there is NO need. the ONLY need of a user is to charge their device so it work's At times they must send their device to me so I can rev the sw version on the device... The BB Biz server to my present knowledge ONLY wirelessly sync's E-mail and Calendar..period everything else requires a user to cradle their device to sync the rest... Contacts..etc... the BB Biz server should still redir e-mail and calendar without ANY client sw installed or any special "rules"...or at least I had it setup that way for my test... (BB tries to convince me the Biz server could do what Good Tech did...nope....sorry.. not yet...) My exec's and sales people would be dead in the water without E-Mail, Contacts, Calendar...(wirelessly)in that order of importance for us here... If I had to deploy a client to my users workstation desktop..it would just kill me maintence/update wise... and just increase my work load (not to mention my TS-citrix users would have a hard time, no usb redir and all)... I like it simple..... new unit, cradle, initialize to user, deploy...done..... then on occasion...sw update to unit.... -----Original Message----- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 11:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Blackberry Desktop Manager causes Outlook 2k to start in offl ine mode Regardless of that, you still need some way to update the forwarding rules - which is aprt of the desktop software. Not sure if you know this, but there are two versions of the BB client software - one of which is specifically designed to work with the server software. -------------------------------------------------------------- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. > -----Original Message----- > From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 9:22 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Blackberry Desktop Manager causes Outlook 2k to start in > offl ine mode > > > > that would be true for the BB server which is way limited ... > > Good's product.. NOPE... I setup a unit and that's it (like one time > cradel for setup) the only time I have to cradle afetr is too update > the software version on the unit..and they are working on the ability > to push the sw updates to the unit's. > it's all wireless ...sweet... > > my guy's do not have cradles.... it would not work with the way many > of my people get their desktops' > > check it out it rock's > > bill > -----Original Message----- > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 9:17 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Blackberry Desktop Manager causes Outlook 2k to start in > offl ine mode > > > You still need the desktop piece to allow users to handle syncs, > software upgrades and changing their rule sets. > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP > Sr. Systems Administrator > Inovis Inc. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 9:11 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Blackberry Desktop Manager causes Outlook 2k to start > > in offl ine mode > > > > > > Why dont you just get the server product and dump the gludgy desktop > > redir... it nice and all for like 1 or 2 people but beyond that its > > a bit of a bite > > > > better yet...get Good Technologies solution and you get > Sync'd E-mail, > > Contacts, Calendar, etc...just like have you total OL with you..it's > > nice! > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Alverson, Tom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 8:50 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Blackberry Desktop Manager causes Outlook 2k > to start in > > offl ine mode > > > > > > Thanks for the tip. I think we could create a "blackberry" > > group of users on > > our domain (nt4) and then test to see if they are in that group in > > the login script to determine whether to launch the desktop manager > > or not. > > > > Tom > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 7:52 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Blackberry Desktop Manager causes Outlook 2k to start > > in offl ine mode > > > > We take the Desktop Manager out of the Startup folder and instead > > launch it from our logon script, so it doesn't start when people are > out of the > > office. > > > > -Peter > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > > Alverson, Tom > > Sent: Thursday, 25 March, 2004 11:51 > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: Blackberry Desktop Manager causes Outlook 2k to start in > > offline mode > > > > > > We have a few users with laptops and blackberries who like to dial > > in. We have a special dial in modem bank that can access the RPC > ports of our > > Exchange 5.5 server. If they have the Blackberry desktop manager > > loading at startup, it tries to connect to the exchange server and > > decides that it is offline. When they dial in to this connection > > and then launch Outlook, the mapi spooler is already loaded (by the > > blackberry desktop > > manager) and has > > already decided that the computer is offline. > > > > Right now we have to tell them to quit the Blackberry desktop > > manager, then dial in, then launch Outlook. 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