I would argue that, unless they have on-site Exchange support, that the more
cautious approach would be to consolidate.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul
Hutchings
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 10:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: 5.5 Move Server Wizard

Thanks Missy.  Don't get me wrong here I'm always grateful for good advice,
but I suspect I shall stay on the over cautious side and keep their mail
local.

I'll look into the cross-site mailbox move method.  So long as it will pull
stuff from a 5.5 server in one site to a 2003 server in another site that
should do the trick.

If I do it that way I'll have to visit at some point so I can take care of
any Outlook Profile issues at the same time.

thanks,
Paul

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Missy Koslosky
> Sent: 17 January 2006 18:23
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: 5.5 Move Server Wizard
> 
> Seriously, 2mbps for 35 users is totally enough bandwidth. I think 
> you're being overly cautious here.
> 
> You would not be using the Move Server Wizard if you followed my 
> suggestion.
> That's a PITA way to do this. MUCH simpler to do the cross-site 
> mailbox moves. This can be fairly simple, really.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Hutchings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 9:36 AM
> Subject: RE: 5.5 Move Server Wizard
> 
> 
> There's only around 35 mailboxes on it, private store is around 6.5gb.
> 
> I take the point about cached mode Outlook 2003 and running things 
> over the WAN, but it's only a 2mbps links.  IMHO as they already have 
> good server hardware the cost of an Exchange 2003 Server license isn't 
> huge, so I'd want to keep their mail local to them.
> 
> I'd appreciate any advice on the best plan of attack on how to deal 
> with their site.
> 
> I figured it made sense to have a single site from an admin POV - as 
> you say maybe I should think "mailboxes" more than "sites".  I guess 
> another option would be to put a temporary 2003 server in there as a 
> member of our main site, use the cross-site mailbox utils to move 
> mailboxes to that server, then reinstall current server/site into the 
> main site - end result single site?
> 
> How transparent does Exchange 2003 make a cross-site mailbox move 
> though?
> 
> TBH my main concern with the move server wizard is less to do with 
> moving the server and more to do with if everyone will need their 
> Outlook profile rebuilding and the "what happens with recipient 
> containers" issue.
> 
> thanks,
> Paul
> --
> Paul Hutchings
> Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
> Tel: 44 (0)24 7635 5378, Fax: 44 (0)24 7635 8378 
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> > Missy Koslosky
> > Sent: 17 January 2006 17:09
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: 5.5 Move Server Wizard
> >
> > E2K3 SP1 allows for cross-site mailbox moves, which makes
> the upgrade
> > easier. Don't think on a scale of servers, think on a scale of 
> > mailboxes as object here.
> >
> > There's no need to move the 5.5 server - how many users are on that 
> > server?
> > Unless you answer "500" or more, I'd consolidate to one server -- of 
> > course, take this with a grain of salt, as I know little about the 
> > number of folks in your organization.  But there's definitely 
> > another option here than the one you're presenting, and it's worth 
> > thinking about.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Paul Hutchings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 12:29 AM
> > Subject: RE: 5.5 Move Server Wizard
> >
> >
> > Hmm thanks for that, that's interesting.  The way I 
> understood it 2003
> > didn't come with anything to let you move a server like 
> that, just to
> > move/consolidate mailboxes?
> >
> > At some point in the future we will be upgrading them to
> > 2003, it's just not
> > a priority - I understood that however you choose to do
> > things, once you
> > have a 2003 server in a site you can't move a 5.5 server into
> > that site?
> >
> > I'm downloading that tool as I speak so I'll see what that offers.
> >
> > thanks,
> > Paul
> > --
> > Paul Hutchings
> > Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
> > Tel: 44 (0)24 7635 5378, Fax: 44 (0)24 7635 8378
> > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > > Behalf Of Missy Koslosky
> > > Sent: 16 January 2006 20:20
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: Re: 5.5 Move Server Wizard
> > >
> > > It's actually easier to get Exchange 2003 installed and then
> > > flatten the
> > > organization - E2K3 SP1 has some nice site and server
> > > consolidation tools.
> > > The Solution Accelerator for Exchange Consolidation and Migration
> > > (http://www.microsoft.com/technet/itsolutions/ucs/ecm/saecm/de
> > > fault.mspx)
> > > has a lot of information about this.
> > >
> > > Missy
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Paul Hutchings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 2:59 AM
> > > Subject: 5.5 Move Server Wizard
> > >
> > >
> > > I have a 5.5 organization consisting of 2 sites.
> > >
> > > The main site is running 5.5 and I'm about to order the 
> hardware for
> > > Exchange 2003.
> > >
> > > The smaller site is a remote office, the single server down
> > there is a
> > > Windows 2000 domain controller running 5.5 SP4 with 35
> > > mailboxes on it, for
> > > the moment there's no plan to migrate them to 2003 but we
> > might do so.
> > >
> > > The only connectors in the remote site are the directory 
> replication
> > > connector and the site connector, and being the only server
> > > it's both the
> > > first and last server in the site.
> > >
> > > Before I look at installing the ADC and moving the main site
> > > to Exchange
> > > 2003 I'd like to flatten things so that I only have a single
> > > Exchange 5.5
> > > site - the only reason for having the two 5.5 sites was to control
> > > replication/message traffic.  All administration is handled
> > > by me, so I
> > > believe what I should have before is a single 5.5 site
> > which will then
> > > become a single Administrative Group with 2 routing groups
> > *if* I find
> > > traffic is a problem.
> > >
> > > From the documentation, it looks pretty straightforward:
> > >
> > > Replicate public folders from that site to ours
> > > Remove the event service
> > > Remove the directory/site connectors
> > > Run the wizard
> > > Recreate all users Outlook Profiles
> > >
> > > What I'm not sure of if is firstly if there's anything to be
> > > aware of that
> > > the documentation doesn't cover?
> > >
> > > Secondly, we have recipient containers in both sites (from
> > before the
> > > previous admins RTFM) and the documentation doesn't seem to
> > cover what
> > > happens with these - if they get created in the destination
> > > site, or if they
> > > get moved into a default container in the destination site?
> > >
> > > TIA,
> > > Paul
> > > --
> > > Paul Hutchings
> > > Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
> > > Tel: 44 (0)24 7635 5378, Fax: 44 (0)24 7635 8378
> > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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