At the risk of something else being so obvious that I ought to have
known without asking, what does "it's implemented through Outlook
though" mean?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Vander Kooi
> Posted At: Thursday, August 02, 2007 1:50 PM
> Posted To: swynk
> Conversation: Spam Appliance Suggestions
> Subject: RE: Spam Appliance Suggestions
> 
> Of course we have a quarantine. It's implemented with Outlook though,
> so
> there is no additional log ins to manage and for users to forget.
Users
> set their own white/black lists, no admin assistance is needed. We do
> set global white/black lists and update them very rarely. Other than
> that it is pretty much completely hands off.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Chris Scharff
> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 11:19 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Spam Appliance Suggestions
> 
> So I guess your new solution doesn't have a quarantine feature? I
don't
> know much about the Postini details, but do they not have the ability
> to
> disable quarantine thus making it equivalent from that standpoint?
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Vander Kooi
> > Posted At: Thursday, August 02, 2007 11:00 AM
> > Posted To: swynk
> > Conversation: Spam Appliance Suggestions
> > Subject: RE: Spam Appliance Suggestions
> >
> > How do your users check their hosted mailboxes to check for false
> > positives? I had no problem with the hosted solution, but I spent
far
> > more time helping my users remember how to connect to their remote
> > mailbox than I do now simply supporting a set it and forget it box.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > Aaron Brasslett
> > Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 7:45 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Spam Appliance Suggestions
> >
> > Sounds like you may have picked the wrong solution provider?
> >
> > We use Postini and we spend minuscule amounts of time supporting it.
> I
> > can't imagine ANY on premise solution that could be as painless as
> our
> > hosted solution.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Tim
> > Vander Kooi
> > Posted At: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 5:24 PM
> > Posted To: Exchange Mailing List
> > Conversation: Spam Appliance Suggestions
> > Subject: RE: Spam Appliance Suggestions
> >
> >
> > Speaking from personal experience (I went from on premise to hosted
> > back
> > to on premise) I can tell you that a hosted solution will not save
> you
> > time. We were spending easily 10 times the man hours supporting our
> > hosted solution compared to having it on site. Granted, it easy to
> get
> > to am increment of 10 when the onsite system takes all of 1 minute
> per
> > month, but still, hosted doesn't save you time. (That doesn't mean
> > there
> > aren't other valid reasons for using hosted solutions.) TVK
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > Howard Rappaport
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 3:22 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Spam Appliance Suggestions
> >
> > Have you looked into a hosted solution?  If you have limited staff,
> > adding another piece of hardware might not be the right way to go.
> >
> > www.postini.com
> > www.messagelabs.com
> >
>
http://www.symantec.com/enterprise/products/overview.jsp?pcid=1008&pvid
> > =
> > 863_
> > 1
> > http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/services/default.mspx
> > www.exchangedefender.com
> >
> > There are plenty more too.
> >
> > I've used them all; they all work well, but each has their own
> nuances.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > Mayo, Bill
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 4:05 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Spam Appliance Suggestions
> >
> > We are looking to implement an anti-spam appliance.  We need
> something
> > that is mostly hands-off as we have limited staff.  I am trying to
> > compile a list of possible alternatives and was hoping you kind
folks
> > might be willing to share your suggestions or experiences.  It's
> quite
> > all right with me if you prefer to respond off list.
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> > Bill Mayo
> > Pitt County MIS
> >
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