Thanks for the follow-up, Bonnie

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On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Miller Bonnie L. <
[email protected]> wrote:
>
>  Again, replying to a really old thread with some follow up.  I had
> opened a PSS case on this last January, and after 50 hours of premier time,
> by September It was declared a bug and the fix would potentially be in CU7
> and to wait for that (yes, we recouped our hours).
>
>
>
> With backups ready and fingers tightly crossed, I installed CU7 on my
> servers, and the issue with Outlook 2010 group by views is now resolved.
> From the conversations I had with support I believe there was a similar bug
> identified in Exchange 2010, and so that rollup may also contain the fix.
>
>
>
> Outlook 2013 has not had the issue.
>
>
>
> -Bonnie
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Miller Bonnie L.
> *Sent:* Friday, January 17, 2014 1:04 PM
>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: [Exchange] Inbox refresh issues
>
>
>
> Thanks Michael--I'll check out the yahoo group and if it's still not
> resolvable, we do have hours available still.  If it really is a bug, we
> usually get them back, and if not, I get the problem resolved--that's what
> we reserve them for.  I might have to go get Outlook 2013 and see if it
> does the same thing--we haven't really looked at it yet, but are volume
> licensed.
>
>
>
> -Bonnie
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [
> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *Michael B. Smith
> *Sent:* Friday, January 17, 2014 12:48 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: [Exchange] Inbox refresh issues
>
>
>
> Unfortunately, I don't think any Outlook MVPs made the transition to the
> new lists on myITForum. We used to have two that were on this list, but I
> haven't seen them post in a long time. There is a very active Outlook list
> on yahoo groups where a few hang out. You might try posting the question
> there,  unless you just have premiere cases/hours to burn...
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [
> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *Miller Bonnie L.
> *Sent:* Friday, January 17, 2014 3:35 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: [Exchange] Inbox refresh issues
>
>
>
> So, she isn't in the office today, but I started changing the views around
> on my own inbox, and voila, caused it to happen.  I changed a lot of things
> around and have it narrowed down to the cause, but not sure how to fix it,
> other than telling someone not to use a view they've always used.
>
>
> To reproduce the issue, I can start by setting the view back to defaults
> on my inbox with the "Reset current view" button while on Compact, and it
> works normally.  If I then edit my view with View settings, then add a
> group by, it starts to have the problem.  I've reproduced it both with Name
> Ascending (what she is using), and with subject.  I also see that the Group
> by function is where you can set how the groupings expand, collapse, or
> stay as last viewed, which is also not working right.  I've tried both with
> the "Automatically group by.." box checked and with it not checked.  It
> also doesn't matter if I have a reading pane or not.
>
>
>
> I also found that once I've deleted a message and the view doesn't refresh
> (if you click away and back the reading pane changes to "This item cannot
> be displayed..."), if I use one of the expand or collapse arrows on a
> grouping, that seems to be the only thing that will force a refresh.  F5
> doesn't work, send/receive doesn't help--the only other thing to do is close
> Outlook and reopen, or use ctrl-right-click on the Outlook tray icon,
> connection status, and reconnect.
>
>
>
> I found a few articles listing out Outlook 2010 Post SP2 hotfixes, but
> nothing that seems to address this issue, and we're running in ONLINE mode,
> so no OST involved here (nor psts).  We're on the current RU (3) for
> Exchange 2013.
>
>
>
> Unless someone has another idea of a setting to check, I'm thinking about
> opening a Premier case.  I'm pretty certain  this started sometime after
> migrating her mailbox to Exchange 2013, but it took a while to get to me.
> Or, it could have started after RU3 was applied.  I don't normally run in a
> group by view, so haven't seen it myself until today.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Bonnie
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [
> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *Miller Bonnie L.
> *Sent:* Friday, January 17, 2014 6:52 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: [Exchange] Inbox refresh issues
>
>
>
> Good idea--I'll see if I can have them try another system, even just for a
> few minutes.  She's a pretty busy administrator, so I'm not sure if it's
> something they can try today, but the problem shows up pretty quickly.
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [
> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *Candee
> *Sent:* Friday, January 17, 2014 4:50 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [Exchange] Inbox refresh issues
>
>
>
> Hi Bonnie,
>
>
>
> If she opens Outlook on a different machine does she have the same issues?
>
> That would answer the Windows profile question.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Miller Bonnie L. <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> My google-fu is really off today--just not finding anything helpful on this
> one.  Looks like there were old problems with this back with Outlook 2003
> and Exchange 2010, but that's not what we're on.  Client is Windows 7
> SP1+patches, Outlook 2010 SP2+ patches in ONLINE mode, Servers are WS12,
> Exchange 2013 RU3 (DAG+Lbs).  Her mailbox was migrated from E2k7SP3 RU12.
>
>
>
> I have a user who is having a problem where she is in her Outlook inbox,
> sorted by name, preview pane on the left side, no conversation view.  When
> she uses either the X on the ribbon or taps the delete key on the keyboard,
> the message actually deletes, but the screen does not refresh to show that
> it happened.  We know it's gone because if you try to actually open the
> message, you get the error that it's gone.  When she first opens her inbox,
> and at other times, she is also seeing the cursor "jump" to the top, with
> all items expanded.  If you close and re-open Outlook, it seems to work for
> a few minutes, but then reverts to the failing to refresh state.
>
>
>
> I've tried modifying the view on the problem inbox, which didn't help.  I
> then ran the /cleanviews switch with Outlook--that worked, but didn't help.
> Today, I've given her a new Outlook profile, but that also didn't help.
> Haven't tried deleting her Windows roaming profile yet, but I don't know
> what would be stored there that the new Outlook profile wouldn't fix.
>
>
>
> All of our accounts have been migrated for a while, and others (running
> similar configuration) are not reporting this type of issue.  I'm also not
> seeing anything wrong on the workstation.
>
>
>
> Ideas?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> -Bonnie
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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