I'd think that the Hotmail User Groups scheme would only help if you could convince
everyone to send separate messages to each of the Hotmail groups.
The answer, as has been suggested below, is that hotmail users will have to get their
messages from a regular Exchange account. It doesn't have to be that onerous though,
as they can get both Exchange and Hotmail, either through the regular Hotmail web
page, or through Outlook Express.
-Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Eytcheson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 14:04
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send to no more than 25 at a time...
No, only faculty and staff can send to All Students, but I'm not sure I understand how
using BCC would help here. If I have 80 students with Hotmail accounts, and I BCC a
message to my All Students group, isn't Exchange still going to just try to send a
single message to Hotmail with 100 BCC recipients?
Okay, never mind, I see you just answered that in another message --
As to yours and others replies about being too flexible/force them to use an Exchange
account, etc: It -is- very flexible, it is completely automated and works perfectly
(except for Hotmail). The students like it because they don't have to remember to
check two accounts, the staff like it because students actually read their messages,
the bloodsuckers ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H Alumni/Development Office likes it because we get an
address that will work after they leave the school and I like it because Yahoo,
Hotmail, etc. take care of storing all of their .MP3's and pornography :-)
Does anyone know if my idea of setting up "Hotmail User Group #x" is going to make any
difference in how exchange chooses to send the message to Hotmail? If this will work,
then I will just update the ISAPI dll to assign them randomly to one of these groups
and be done with it.
Thanks for all of the responses and suggestions so far!
Greg
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 3:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send to no more than 25 at a time...
Can anyone in your org address the "All Students" DL? If it's just for administrative
staff you could try training them to address this list in the BCC: field so the
address info would not be sent along with the message.
I agree with another post on this topic - I think you've gone too far to try and make
your solution flexible for the student's benefit. Sometimes you need to draw the line
- but as we all know (I've been reprimanded for arguing the point) sometimes technical
justification and business justification standpoints just don't get along.
Eric
On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 14:41:47 -0500, "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Exchange 2000 SP1, Windows 2000 SP2, GFI Mail Essentials 2000 (latest build), Dell
>PowerEdge 2550, dual P-III 733, 2GB RAM.
>
> Dear Exchange Guru's and Goddesses:
>
> Q: Is there a way to get Exchange to limit the number of recipients per message for
>a specific remote domain? More specifically, break a message with more than x number
>of recipients into multiple messages. If so, how?
>
> Explanation: This year, I allowed students to choose whether to use their own email
>address (mail enabled account) or an account on our system (mailbox enabled account).
> All students, regardless of their choice of accounts, are added to the "All
>Students" group, allowing the staff to send announcements as necessary. This works
>great except for one thing: messages sent to "All Students" always get an NDR with
>every Hotmail user listed.
>
> So, I ask Hotmail support why that might be happening and this is their reply: "I
>understand how inconvenient it is on your part but I would like to inform you that we
>have only a limit of 25 recipients per messages."
>
> Great. If you try to include more than 25 Hotmail recipients in a single message,
>Hotmail will reject the entire message. So, I need a way to have Exchange break up
>the message into multiple messages with only 25 recipients per each when addressed to
>a Hotmail address. Any ideas? Other solutions?
>
> My only idea at this time is to create several "Hotmail Users #x" type groups, and
>then assign up to 25 Hotmail users per group to each of these groups, and add these
>groups to the All Students group. This is way more hands-on than I want to get on
>this; the rest of the process is completely automated.
>
> If I am to be FAQ'ed here, please point to a specific page. I have searched the
>FAQ, Slipstick, groups.google.com, northernlight.com, etc. and have found nothing
>that relates to this problem.
>
> Thank you,
> Greg
>
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