~ndi
The CR's would be prone to mail loops though if the students didn't keep to
their mailbox limits...
PBB
-----Original Message-----
From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 10 September 2001 23:02
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send to no more than 25 at a time...
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I just realized you could also set up custom recipients (or the Exchange 2K
equivalent) for the Hotmail students, and put those addresses in the All
Students list.
-Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 14:55
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send to no more than 25 at a time...
I'd think that the Hotmail User Groups scheme would only help if you could
convince everyone to send separate messages to each of the Hotmail groups.
The answer, as has been suggested below, is that hotmail users will have to
get their messages from a regular Exchange account. It doesn't have to be
that onerous though, as they can get both Exchange and Hotmail, either
through the regular Hotmail web page, or through Outlook Express.
-Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Eytcheson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 14:04
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send to no more than 25 at a time...
No, only faculty and staff can send to All Students, but I'm not sure I
understand how using BCC would help here. If I have 80 students with
Hotmail accounts, and I BCC a message to my All Students group, isn't
Exchange still going to just try to send a single message to Hotmail with
100 BCC recipients?
Okay, never mind, I see you just answered that in another message --
As to yours and others replies about being too flexible/force them to use an
Exchange account, etc: It -is- very flexible, it is completely automated
and works perfectly (except for Hotmail). The students like it because they
don't have to remember to check two accounts, the staff like it because
students actually read their messages, the bloodsuckers ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H
Alumni/Development Office likes it because we get an address that will work
after they leave the school and I like it because Yahoo, Hotmail, etc. take
care of storing all of their .MP3's and pornography :-)
Does anyone know if my idea of setting up "Hotmail User Group #x" is going
to make any difference in how exchange chooses to send the message to
Hotmail? If this will work, then I will just update the ISAPI dll to assign
them randomly to one of these groups and be done with it.
Thanks for all of the responses and suggestions so far!
Greg
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 3:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Send to no more than 25 at a time...
Can anyone in your org address the "All Students" DL? If it's just for
administrative staff you could try training them to address this list in the
BCC: field so the address info would not be sent along with the message.
I agree with another post on this topic - I think you've gone too far to try
and make your solution flexible for the student's benefit. Sometimes you
need to draw the line - but as we all know (I've been reprimanded for
arguing the point) sometimes technical justification and business
justification standpoints just don't get along.
Eric
On Mon, 10 Sep 2001 14:41:47 -0500, "Exchange Discussions"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Exchange 2000 SP1, Windows 2000 SP2, GFI Mail Essentials 2000 (latest
build), Dell PowerEdge 2550, dual P-III 733, 2GB RAM.
>
> Dear Exchange Guru's and Goddesses:
>
> Q: Is there a way to get Exchange to limit the number of recipients per
message for a specific remote domain? More specifically, break a message
with more than x number of recipients into multiple messages. If so, how?
>
> Explanation: This year, I allowed students to choose whether to use their
own email address (mail enabled account) or an account on our system
(mailbox enabled account). All students, regardless of their choice of
accounts, are added to the "All Students" group, allowing the staff to send
announcements as necessary. This works great except for one thing:
messages sent to "All Students" always get an NDR with every Hotmail user
listed.
>
> So, I ask Hotmail support why that might be happening and this is their
reply: "I understand how inconvenient it is on your part but I would like
to inform you that we have only a limit of 25 recipients per messages."
>
> Great. If you try to include more than 25 Hotmail recipients in a single
message, Hotmail will reject the entire message. So, I need a way to have
Exchange break up the message into multiple messages with only 25 recipients
per each when addressed to a Hotmail address. Any ideas? Other solutions?
>
> My only idea at this time is to create several "Hotmail Users #x" type
groups, and then assign up to 25 Hotmail users per group to each of these
groups, and add these groups to the All Students group. This is way more
hands-on than I want to get on this; the rest of the process is completely
automated.
>
> If I am to be FAQ'ed here, please point to a specific page. I have
searched the FAQ, Slipstick, groups.google.com, northernlight.com, etc. and
have found nothing that relates to this problem.
>
> Thank you,
> Greg
>
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