Nathan, 

So how did they solve the problem?!

Allison


On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, you wrote:
> I've seen this happen on some of the other lists I'm on.  Thank heaven for
> procmail and mutt. :) 
> 
> It seems only the HTML replies from Outlook 2xxx users on Exchange 2k that
> have this happening.  Perhaps the IMC isn't converting something?  I don't
> have a 2k box to track it down on.  But it doesn't appear to be the Linux
> boxes running Major-Domo CGI or Lyris that are the cause, just a common
> link.
> 
> Nathan
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:06 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Emails sent twice: once plain text, once HTML
> > 
> > 
> > The contents of the message body are included twice by 
> > default in Outlook
> > (and most other mail clients) once as HTML and once as plain 
> > text... But the
> > messages aren't sent twice. In order to know what is really 
> > going on, I
> > think you'll need to turn up logging and watch what is being sent from
> > Exchange.
> > 
> > Chris
> > -- 
> > Chris Scharff
> > Senior Sales Engineer
> > MessageOne
> > If you can't measure, you can't manage! 
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 7:49 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Emails sent twice: once plain text, once HTML
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi Tom,
> > > 
> > > I will answer the questions in-line.
> > > 
> > > On Sat, 10 Nov 2001, you wrote:
> > > > I'm not really sure what your architecture is here. Are 
> > you saying 
> > > > that you have two separate email systems; one for 
> > internet mail and 
> > > > one for intranet mail? My first question, if this is the 
> > > case, is why?
> > > 
> > > Yes, one server is located in the office for internal mail 
> > > (it is also the SMTP Server - we only send emails thru this 
> > > server).  The other server is located externally at a hosting 
> > > company.  We only check our external mail from this server, 
> > > and do not use it for sending our mail. Why? Well the best 
> > > reason is cost. We have to pay for external traffic (traffic 
> > > that flows from the office to the outside).  So when we email 
> > > each other internally we don't have to pay for the traffic.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > If the above is correct, you have probably made a change on 
> > > your Linux 
> > > > system that is causing it to have an issue with the fact that E2K 
> > > > sends each message as both plain text and HTML. If that 
> > is the case 
> > > > you can either find out what you changed and remove the 
> > > change or get 
> > > > your Linux people to fix it. The next option is to change 
> > > the default 
> > > > Internet Mail Format to just plaintext.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Nothing has changed on the linux system.  I am "the Linux people".
> > > 
> > >  
> > > > By default E2K sends all internet mail as both plaint text 
> > > and HTML. 
> > > > Some non-Exchange systems have trouble with this. For 
> > those domains 
> > > > that have an issue you can set up domain exceptions under Global 
> > > > Settings/Internet Message Format in ESM. Choose to send 
> > > plain text OR 
> > > > HTML rather than both.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > So its a "feature" that internet mail is sent twice? OR am I 
> > > misunderstanding? 
> > > But right now, my setting is "Message test as unformatted 
> > > Text".  The "both" is unchecked.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > > If your problem is just with a few external domains, you 
> > > might want to 
> > > > try an exception for one of the effected domains to see if 
> > > the result 
> > > > is better.
> > > 
> > > It seems to be coming only from about half the users, to 
> > > anywhere they send emails.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Tom.
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Allison Wittstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:04 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: Emails sent twice: once plain text, once HTML
> > > > 
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > A recent problem has appeared in which emails sent by the 
> > Exchange 
> > > > users are being received twice.  The plain text message 
> > > header shows 
> > > > it being sent from
> > > > the user machine, to the internal linux mail server to the 
> > > recipient.
> > > > The HTML
> > > > mail has the same sent-time, but the receiving time is 
> > > minutes later.
> > > > The
> > > > header for these mails show it going to the Exchange server to the
> > > > recipient.
> > > > 
> > > > Is there a way to stop this without removing the "Internet Mail" 
> > > > account from the Services list?  The users need to check both the 
> > > > internal mail
> > > > (Exchange)
> > > > and the external (Internet Mail).
> > > > 
> > > > The clients are using Outlook 2000 and the server is 2000 also.
> > > > 
> > > > Note:  Although the Exchange server has been in place for 
> > > some months, 
> > > > this problem has recently appeared.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > A.W.
> > > > 
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