I was under the impression that setting up a CR as an alternate recipient is quite 
safe, because the message, as relayed, appears to be from the original sender, not the 
address it's relayed from. Because of this, any *mailbox is full*, or *user doesn't 
exist* messages go directly back to the original sender, not to the Exchange address 
for reforwarding.

-Peter


-----Original Message-----
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 11:19
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Newbie question so please don 't bash me..


Now see, I was always under the impression that using a CR was the lesser of
two evils ( as opposed to simply forwarding by rule) and by using it,
Exchange was better at detecting possible loops. (Not that I dont prefer OWA
or VPN).
Additionally, RFC 2821 specifies: 

        "Simple counting of the number of "Received:" headers in a message
has proven to be an effective, although rarely  optimal, method of detecting
loops in mail systems. SMTP servers using this technique SHOULD use a large
rejection       threshold, normally at least 100 Received entries. Whatever
mechanisms are used, servers MUST contain provisions for        detecting
and stopping trivial loops"

My questions: Does using a CR (Or Contact in E2k) put Exchange in compliance
with 2821 and what is considered a "trivial loop" ? --  Or am I simply
misunderstanding the RFC?



Andy



-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 1:59 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Newbie question so please don 't bash me..


Thanks, I will take your advice with me back to management....I asked them
in the first place to us OWA....
Now, I have ammunition....

Thank You,
Robert Williams
Senior Network Administrator
Raypak, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone - 805-278-5363
FAX - 818-464-6982
www.raypak.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 10:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Newbie question so please don 't bash me..


So what part of Daniel's suggestion did you not understand?  The Custom
Recipient is set up with an external e-mail address - his home e-mail
address.  You can then select that CR as the alternate recipient under
delivery options and it will work once you uncheck "Do not allow autoreplies
to the Internet" on your IMS.  You asked for the easiest way - that is what
was presented.  However, as Daniel also said, the potential for mail loops
increases greatly.  If you choose to do this, don't come crying back to us
if your server crashes from a loop.  Management's job is to give you orders.
Your job is to reply back why some of the orders don't make sense.  If you
do a good enough job, you will make them understand that it doesn't make
sense.   Make sure that legal has some input on this as well.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.

 -----Original Message-----
From:   Robert Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Monday, November 19, 2001 1:47 PM
To:     Exchange Discussions
Subject:        RE: Newbie question so please don 't bash me..

The problem is that this guy only wants to check his own email and want us
to forward this one to his..... My issue is that management TOLD me to
forward his mail (politics)

Thank You,
Robert Williams
Senior Network Administrator
Raypak, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone - 805-278-5363
FAX - 818-464-6982
www.raypak.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 10:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Newbie question so please don 't bash me..


Create a custom recipient representing his home account. Allow auto-forward
under the IMC.

This is not recommended, by the way: the potential for mail loops is large.
Better would be to give him external access to his mailbox.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 12:41 PM
Subject: Newbie question so please don 't bash me..


> What is the easy way to forward one of my users email to his pop3 home
> account, cause under delivery options I can only select other exchange 
> users......where am I missing the boat on this?
>
> Thank You,
> Robert Williams
> Senior Network Administrator
> Raypak, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Phone - 805-278-5363
> FAX - 818-464-6982
> www.raypak.com
>
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