> Is it so bad to reach out and see if anyone can help someone get a job?

In general, possibly not; with this particular person, however, yes, I think
it IS "so bad".  Given his previous arrogance, pomposity and ignorance in
his operation of a service that allegedly helped to fight UCE, it's somewhat
ironic that he now resorts to advertising himself on a list that is not
designed for that purpose.

> We might all need such help one day.

Yes, but we probably don't have such hangups about using search sites, or
have our own network of contacts that might be able to help us.  We would
not, in most cases (I believe), pimp ourselves so laughably on a technical
discussion list.


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Razler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 20:10
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New year, no contract

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        I am on several lists where people who are out of work, and are
looking for work in the area covered by the list, send out feelers for any
positions that might be available.  Given the current economy, that group is

        Also, this group of people might be more likely then anyone to know
of any openings for someone who needs a job in this area of expertise.

        Everyone on this list is willing to help people most of the time. 
Is it so bad to reach out and see if anyone can help someone get a job?  We
might all need such help one day.

        My $0.02.


- -----Original Message-----
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 4:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New year, no contract

Well here's a thought genius - try using a jobsearch site, like, oh I don't
know, how about www.jobsearch.co.uk?  Rather than spamming this list with
your pathetic little almost-resume?  Particularly as this list knows what a
jerk you made of yourself with ORB UK.  Complete arrogance and ineptitude in
your behaviour regarding UCE, and yet here you are now spamming several
thousand computer professionals.

Alternatively, please practice "Would you like fries with that?", as that is
probably the best place for you to end up. [1]


[1] And for added giggle value folks, the listed rate of 35 thousand euros,
well that's around 21 thousand pounds sterling, or 31 thousand US dollars.
Pretty much what you could get as a starting manager at some corporate
fast-food joint...

- -----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 15:36
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT: New year, no contract

Hi folks...

Off topic for the list, but what the hell, it's christmas.

Since ORB UK is now closed pending the creation of Horus, that means I'm 
out of contract now.

I'm 30, been using MS since before they bought DOS, and I'm a Microsoft 
Partner in my own right.

I have experience in Windows from 3.1 to ME, OS/2 and NT from 2.1 to XP, 
DOS'en from 3.3 to 7.1, and Linux. I also use BeOS, MacOS X, FreeBSD and 
SVR4. My current 'learning experience' is QNX.

I have experience of Sendmail, QMail, Exim, Exchange 5 and 5.5, and 
Mailtraq, and have used SPTM, POP3, APOP, ETRN and ODMR.

I've been doing telephone and deskside support for the better end of 4 
years, and was part of the support team during the launch of Telewest
SurfUnlimited. I've used and supported ISDN, ADSL, and Cable Modems, as 
well as Leased Line, Routed Solutions and Plain Old dial-up. Sad though I 
am, I can identify a modem model and a RAS by ear. With Lucent 
Portmasters, I can even tell the ComOs release by listening to it.

I'm based in Basingstoke, UK, but don't mind commuting, consulting, 
homeworking, Remote Adminning, or even travelling if the price is right. 
I'll do Contract or Permanent, and would be looking for EUR25 per hour for 
Contract or EUR35,000 per annum for permanent.

If you want more info, or a CV, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Many thanks all.

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