Wait until then to play with ESEUTIL then!

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Blunt, James H
(Jim)
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 5:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Excessive whitespace in Priv.edb and Pub.edb...Problem?


I would love to do that, but unfortunately...I can't!

We have never had a dedicated "recovery server" in the 4.5 years I've
been here.  I was finally given the money, so I ordered a duplicate to
the Compaq ML380's that we already have.  I know I could have made my
recovery server less of high-end machine, but I did it partly for
replacement parts if one fails and partly so I could play around with
the exact setup I have in the production machines.

I ordered this server about 1.5 months ago.  It got here about 2 weeks
ago, but it was in such bad shape when UPS delivered it, that all I
could do was laugh and send it back!  The face plate was bowed out about
3 inches the corners were bent and the box was split in two and had been
all taped up. Basically looked like it had been dropped from about 10
feet up and jumped on by a 800 lb. gorilla!  :o)

Hopefully, the replacement will be here soon.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 5:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Excessive whitespace in Priv.edb and Pub.edb...Problem?


I vote to leave it along.  If you want to run the ESEUTIL tools to check
the health of the store, by all means do so on the restored copy of the
database on your recovery server.  I wouldn't mess with it on your
production server.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Blunt, James H
(Jim)
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 4:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Excessive whitespace in Priv.edb and Pub.edb...Problem?


Folks,

I have 3 mailbox servers, 1 dedicated IMS server and 1 dedicated
bridgehead server.  All three mailbox servers are Win2k SP2 / Ex5.5
SP4+3...the other 2 are the same, but Ex5.5 SP4.  Mailbox servers are
Compaq DL380's with 1ghz processors and 512mb of RAM, running on a
Raid-5 setup with 5-18gb drives. OS is on one logical drive, logs on
another and stores on a third.  IMS and Bridgehead are just old
workstations.  We are doing full online Exchange-aware backups, using
Veritas 8.5.  Circular logging is on currently. (I know, I know...prior
admin forgot to turn off the default setting...I have a request into our
change board to turn it off on Monday, still awaiting approval.)

Anyway...during the course of the nightly backups / defrags, I get the
messages below.  It takes the system about 30 seconds to backup the DS
on each server and about 45 minutes to backup the IS.  All would seem
pretty normal to me, if it weren't for the amount of free space in the
Private Store when it's done.  Does this much free space seem excessive
to anyone else but me?  I added the comments to the end of each message.

Event Type:     Information
Event Source:   MSExchangeIS Private
Event Category: General 
Event ID:       1221
Date:           1/31/2002
Time:           12:07:52 AM
User:           N/A
Computer:       Computer1
Description:
The database has 1078 megabytes of free space after online
defragmentation has terminated. (Total priv.edb on this server is only
7.4gb)

Event Type:     Information
Event Source:   MSExchangeIS Private
Event Category: General 
Event ID:       1221
Date:           1/31/2002
Time:           12:21:41 AM
User:           N/A
Computer:       Computer2 (Mailbox Server)
Description:
The database has 440 megabytes of free space after online
defragmentation has terminated. (Total priv.edb on this server is only
4.83gb)

Event Type:     Information
Event Source:   MSExchangeIS Public
Event Category: General 
Event ID:       1221
Date:           1/30/2002
Time:           12:00:04 AM
User:           N/A
Computer:       Computer3 (Public Folder Server/Mailbox server)
Description:
The database has 386 megabytes of free space after online
defragmentation has terminated. (Total pub.edb on this server is only
1.17gb)

Event Type:     Information
Event Source:   MSExchangeIS Private
Event Category: General 
Event ID:       1221
Date:           1/30/2002
Time:           12:02:34 AM
User:           N/A
Computer:       Computer3
Description:
The database has 593 megabytes of free space after online
defragmentation has terminated. (Total priv.edb on this server is only
9.82gb)

Event Type:     Information
Event Source:   MSExchangeIS Private
Event Category: General 
Event ID:       1221
Date:           1/31/2002
Time:           12:00:02 AM
User:           N/A
Computer:       Computer4 (Dedicated IMS)
Description:
The database has 114 megabytes of free space after online
defragmentation has terminated. (Total priv.edb on this server is only
117mb)

I am thinking about doing the following, after 8:00pm this Friday: 1.
Stop all the Exchange services on the servers in question. 2.  Do a full
offline backup. 3.  Run:  eseutil /G /ispriv /V /X /O 4.  Run:  eseutil
/D /ispriv /P /O 5.  Run:  eseutil /P /ispriv /V /X /O 6.  Restart all
my Exchange services. 7.  Pray VERY hard that everything turns out okay.

Jim Blunt
Network / E-mail Admin
Network / Infrastructure Group
Bechtel Hanford, Inc.
509-372-9188

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