True, that's advice I will definitely take on board. I have had situations
whereby a server 'hangs' on shutdown and continues to respond to a ping
indefinately, but refuses to allow me to connect in any other way

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 03 April 2002 17:27
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware


I do the same thing. However it isn't "will the box come back up" that gets
me. Its "will the box cleanly shut down", since that is whrer I have always
had my issues. Now days I always manually kill services before shutting
down. IIS, SQL, Exch, etc.

-----Original Message-----
From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware


The ECMSM worked great for me, luckily I have a lone Win2k VPN server set up
for me and some Directors to connect up with our home ADSL accounts, and I
can Dameware into the NT4 Exchange server to do some 'babysitting' although
nothing was required. Set it and forget it indeed. I can have a lager at
home too, which always tends to draw strange looks at work

However, this method of operating servers from home creates some tense
moments. Whilst working on servers located in far off places locked away in
cupboards late at night, I always get a little anxious during a reboot
watching the "request timed out" from the "ping 192.168.2.25 -t" wondering
whether I left a floppy in the drive

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 03 April 2002 17:10
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware


All together: JUST SET IT.....AND FORGET IT!!

-----Original Message-----
From: Akerlund, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware


5:15pm:  Break in because problem account crashed IS when it tried to move
it. 
5:04pm:  You do the above because you remember the key is locked inside.
hehe

Don't get me wrong I love the ECMSM works great, and is less filling.
However; I did have several accounts that did the above last time I did the
ECMSM.  I don't think you can set it and forget it, some baby sitting is
required.



-----Original Message-----
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 7:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware


5:04 PM: Remember you left server room door key inside server room.



-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware


I've moved 1800 users from one server to another before using the ECMSM and
when measuring the amount of my time that it took to complete the move vs.
doing a backup and restore there is no comparison.. The ECMSM wins hands
down.

5:00 PM: Fire up the Exchange Admin on the destination server 5:01 PM:
Select 500 mailboxes from the GAL 5:02 PM Choose Tools | Move Mailbox and
select destination server 5:03 PM Close door to server room on way out.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:52 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
> 
> 
> No, I work 8x5 like the rest of the 4000 staff in my organization and 
> so opportunities to move mailboxes are in a small window in the 
> mornings between 7am and 8am, before users arrive.  That does not give 
> a lot of time to move users, and moving a mailbox of, say, 100 MB can 
> take some time.  Try moving 500 mailboxes with an average of 30 MB 
> each and I think you'll find it takes longer than a backup and 
> restore.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 28 March 2002 16:57
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
> > 
> > 
> > Do you work 24x7? Because assuming a 12 hour window on a Friday and
> > Saturday night I could probably move around 30-40GB on a LAN and 
> > actual impact to any single user would likely be only a matter of 
> > minutes.
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:25 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Over 500.
> > > 
> > > Mailboxes can't be moved during working hours....
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: 26 March 2002 20:12
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Months to move? How many mailboxes are we talking here?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:32 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > While the Ed Crowley Server Move method is very
> > effective, I would
> > > > not discount the backup and restore method, where you do
> > the whole
> > > > move within one day.  I've used the Ed Crawley Server
> Move method
> > > > and it works fine, but the downside is that it can take
> months to
> > > > move the mailboxes, if you have a lot of them, and if
> > they are big.
> > > > As a result, recently I used the server move method, and
> > had great
> > > > success, it was finished in one day and was much cleaner.  I
> > > > wouldn't say it's that risky, as long as you know how to
> > back out of
> > > > it.
> > > > There are also two types of move, i) using one-line backup &
> > > > restore, ii) using off-line backup & restore, and I found the 
> > > > latter easier.
> > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: 25 March 2002 18:14
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I suggest rebuilding your plan from the ground up.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Read the FAQ (Link is below) - there is a well
> developed set of
> > > > > steps to doing it the right way.
> > > > > 
> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> > > > > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > > > > Peregrine Systems
> > > > > Atlanta, GA
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Sebastian, Didy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 4:21 AM
> > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > Subject: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I have to move my existing Exchange 5.5 to new
> > hardware.  I am
> > > > > > restoring from an online backup and will basically install
> > > > > > everything from CD - NT4, Service Pack 6, Exchange 5.5,
> > > Exchange
> > > > > > Service Pack 3 and then use my Legato backup to restore the 
> > > > > > Information Store and Directory Store.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Can anybody offer any advice or pointers on what to
> > > watch out for?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thanks in advance for you help.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Didy
> > > > > > 
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