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-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Harford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 3:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware


Not if you have invested in Remote Management cards.  For Compaq servers
this would be the following
:-http://www.compaq.com/manage/remote-lightsout.html.

It does bump the cost per server up a little, but compare this to the
over-time costs of having to pay someone else to baby-sit your servers over
the weekend or overnight. You can even re-build the server to a new OS - all
from the comfort of home.

Mark

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: 03 April 2002 18:12
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
> 
> 
> EXACTLY
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:38 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
> 
> 
> True, that's advice I will definitely take on board. I have 
> had situations whereby a server 'hangs' on shutdown and 
> continues to respond to a ping indefinately, but refuses to 
> allow me to connect in any other way
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: 03 April 2002 17:27
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
> 
> 
> I do the same thing. However it isn't "will the box come back 
> up" that gets me. Its "will the box cleanly shut down", since 
> that is whrer I have always had my issues. Now days I always 
> manually kill services before shutting down. IIS, SQL, Exch, etc.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Niki Blowfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:27 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
> 
> 
> The ECMSM worked great for me, luckily I have a lone Win2k 
> VPN server set up for me and some Directors to connect up 
> with our home ADSL accounts, and I can Dameware into the NT4 
> Exchange server to do some 'babysitting' although nothing was 
> required. Set it and forget it indeed. I can have a lager at 
> home too, which always tends to draw strange looks at work
> 
> However, this method of operating servers from home creates 
> some tense moments. Whilst working on servers located in far 
> off places locked away in cupboards late at night, I always 
> get a little anxious during a reboot watching the "request 
> timed out" from the "ping 192.168.2.25 -t" wondering whether 
> I left a floppy in the drive
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: 03 April 2002 17:10
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
> 
> 
> All together: JUST SET IT.....AND FORGET IT!!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Akerlund, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:09 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
> 
> 
> 5:15pm:  Break in because problem account crashed IS when it 
> tried to move it. 
> 5:04pm:  You do the above because you remember the key is 
> locked inside. hehe
> 
> Don't get me wrong I love the ECMSM works great, and is less 
> filling. However; I did have several accounts that did the 
> above last time I did the ECMSM.  I don't think you can set 
> it and forget it, some baby sitting is required.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 7:58 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
> 
> 
> 5:04 PM: Remember you left server room door key inside server room.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:54 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
> 
> 
> I've moved 1800 users from one server to another before using 
> the ECMSM and when measuring the amount of my time that it 
> took to complete the move vs. doing a backup and restore 
> there is no comparison.. The ECMSM wins hands down.
> 
> 5:00 PM: Fire up the Exchange Admin on the destination server 
> 5:01 PM: Select 500 mailboxes from the GAL 5:02 PM Choose 
> Tools | Move Mailbox and select destination server 5:03 PM 
> Close door to server room on way out.
> 
> -- 
> Chris Scharff MVP, MCSE
> MessageOne
> 512-652-4500 x244
> 
> "When the country falls into chaos, patriotism is born."
> --Tao Te Ching 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:52 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
> > 
> > 
> > No, I work 8x5 like the rest of the 4000 staff in my 
> organization and 
> > so opportunities to move mailboxes are in a small window in the 
> > mornings between 7am and 8am, before users arrive.  That 
> does not give 
> > a lot of time to move users, and moving a mailbox of, say, 
> 100 MB can 
> > take some time.  Try moving 500 mailboxes with an average of 30 MB 
> > each and I think you'll find it takes longer than a backup and 
> > restore.
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 28 March 2002 16:57
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Do you work 24x7? Because assuming a 12 hour window on a 
> Friday and
> > > Saturday night I could probably move around 30-40GB on a LAN and 
> > > actual impact to any single user would likely be only a matter of 
> > > minutes.
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:25 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Over 500.
> > > > 
> > > > Mailboxes can't be moved during working hours....
> > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: 26 March 2002 20:12
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Months to move? How many mailboxes are we talking here?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Rowell, John (AFIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:32 AM
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > While the Ed Crowley Server Move method is very
> > > effective, I would
> > > > > not discount the backup and restore method, where you do
> > > the whole
> > > > > move within one day.  I've used the Ed Crawley Server
> > Move method
> > > > > and it works fine, but the downside is that it can take
> > months to
> > > > > move the mailboxes, if you have a lot of them, and if
> > > they are big.
> > > > > As a result, recently I used the server move method, and
> > > had great
> > > > > success, it was finished in one day and was much cleaner.  I
> > > > > wouldn't say it's that risky, as long as you know how to
> > > back out of
> > > > > it.
> > > > > There are also two types of move, i) using one-line backup &
> > > > > restore, ii) using off-line backup & restore, and I found the 
> > > > > latter easier.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: 25 March 2002 18:14
> > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > Subject: RE: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I suggest rebuilding your plan from the ground up.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Read the FAQ (Link is below) - there is a well
> > developed set of
> > > > > > steps to doing it the right way.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> > > > > > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > > > > > Peregrine Systems
> > > > > > Atlanta, GA
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Sebastian, Didy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 4:21 AM
> > > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > > Subject: Moving Exchange 5.5 to new hardware
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I have to move my existing Exchange 5.5 to new
> > > hardware.  I am
> > > > > > > restoring from an online backup and will basically install
> > > > > > > everything from CD - NT4, Service Pack 6, Exchange 5.5,
> > > > Exchange
> > > > > > > Service Pack 3 and then use my Legato backup to 
> restore the 
> > > > > > > Information Store and Directory Store.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Can anybody offer any advice or pointers on what to
> > > > watch out for?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thanks in advance for you help.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > Didy
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
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