Thank you this is exactly what I was looking for.> 

You're talking about the actual files - yes? Nothing will backup the
> physical files - when you do a backup of the IS, that is backing up the
> *data* in the files, which is what you want. You don't want to back up the
> files.
> 
> As for circular logging, once you are backing up the IS (again, don't worry
> about the files!), the logs will flush.
> 
> Tris
> 
> ---------------------------------------------
> Tristan Gayford
> Deputy Systems & Network Manager
> Cranfield University at Silsoe
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karon Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: 08 August 2002 20:49
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
> 
> So, maybe BE is skipping the pub.edb and priv.edb because we're backing
> doing the BLB backups?  Maybe you can't do the BLB and entire IS at the
> same time.
> 
> 
> Yes that is getting the full IS store... Not doing BLB but the full
> > Monty.....
> > 
> > Bryce Weathersby
> > Networking Specialist I
> > Lamar Institute Of Technology
> > Beaumont, TX
> > Phone: 409-839-2040
> > Fax: 409-839-2931
> > http://www.lit.edu
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 2:39 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
> > 
> > 
> > What does it look like in the Job Log.....All I see is the exchange
> > mailboxes, and the IS being backuped. Though for the Backup Type on the IS
> > it's says "Full - Database & Logs (flush committed logs). I'm getting it
> > right there aren't I?
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Weathersby, Bryce
> > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 12:36 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The Exchange Agent will back up the entire file, the Exchange Information
> > Store. Instead of doing the BLB just the backup of the IS is done. Much
> > faster. If the lawyers are really concerned about the ability to restore
> one
> > mailbox, look at a tool from Ontrack called PowerControls. It allows you
> to
> > open up the .edb file and restore one mail or folder or email email back
> to
> > the exchange server, or out to a .pst. I used it to help recover from a
> > disaster. It opened the file even when all of the Microsoft recovery
> > attempts failed. I did not recover every mailbox, but I got 93.6% back
> (long
> > story).
> > 
> > 
> > Bryce Weathersby
> > Networking Specialist I
> > Lamar Institute Of Technology
> > Beaumont, TX
> > Phone: 409-839-2040
> > Fax: 409-839-2931
> > http://www.lit.edu
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Karon Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 2:32 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Backing up Exchange 5.5
> > 
> > 
> > We are using BE ver 8.5 getting ready to upgrade to 8.6 and we're using
> the
> > Exchange Agent but not the Open File Agent.  We cannot backup the pub.edb
> > and priv.edb without using the Open File Agent.  You have to stop the
> > services in order to back up those files.  Somone on here mentioned an
> > Exchange Module is that something different than an Exchange Agent?  I'd
> > like to know how some of you are backing up the pub.ed and priv.edb
> without
> > stopping the services.
> > 
> > Karon 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  PS the fact that you are likely doing BLB would contribute to the
> problems
> > > you indicated with backing up in the last post you did...
> > > 
> > > 1.) read the FAQ
> > > 2.) sound like you have the exchnage agent loaded (must have to be 
> > > able to do BLB) lose the Open File Agent (assuming you are not 
> > > confusing the Open File with the Exchange Agent)
> > > 3.) Lose the BLB, and back up the IS..etc... (read the BE stuff too
> > its
> > > good)
> > > 
> > > 4.) Lose your Sys Mgr with all there cert's obviously that are doing
> > > no good...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > bill
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Karon Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 2:20 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: Backing up Exchange 5.5
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I know this has come up before but how is everyone else backing up 
> > > their Exchange servers.  We're using Backup Exec and only backing up
> > > the mailboxes not the pub.edb or priv.edb.  Is it wise to stop those
> > > services periodically to back those up?  And how often?  We're not 
> > > using the Open File Agent.
> > > 
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