If you really do have a raid 5 set up this is BS. One drive out of a raid5
setup is just that, a drive. No data to be used. Find out what raid you
have!!

-----Original Message-----
From: Sakti Chakravarty (Senteq) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 12:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Hardware


I quite agree, you seem to be missing the point that the backup strategy is
crap, and it's not due to hard disk transportation issues.  I think you have
the ammo you were after, now use it!

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, 14 September 2002 5:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Hardware


Get off that angle.  He's not dragging it home from the bumper, he's giving
it a ride on a nice upholstered seat in his Lexus.

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, September 13, 2002 2:20 PM
Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
Conversation: Backup Hardware
Subject: RE: Backup Hardware


Still wouldn't all the vibration and shocks that the HD will suffer from
transport eventually lead to corruption or bad sectors?

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andrey Fyodorov
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Hardware


And if that is the case, he could be transporting a blank hot spare back and
forth.

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrey Fyodorov 
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 3:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Hardware


Must be a RAID1 (2 drives) + one hot spare.

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 3:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Hardware


Which is what I was thinking too. But my boss swears that there's 3 drives
in there connected to that controller.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andrey Fyodorov
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 12:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup Hardware


Only one drive out of the RAID5? Maybe I did not read that correctly but he
only has bits of part of the data. What can he accomplish with that one
drive in case of disaster?

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 6:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup Hardware


My boss has a friend that has a company that backs up their servers by
taking a spare hard drive from a RAID 5 config home ever night. Currently we
are using a VAX tape drive to back up our systems. He seems to think that
the hard drive solution sounds like a great idea. I think it's possibly the
worst idea ever created. Besides the constant vibrations, and temperature
changes that the hard drives would have to withstand could everyone give me
some more reasons as to why this is a bad idea. I think I just need a little
ammo from other admins to help convince him. 

Thanks
Chris Hummert

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