No, MessageOne doesn't have an archival solution... My research was for a
customer of ours and a chapter of a book I've been asked to write. I don't
normally say much when topics of discussion come around to products we make,
but if you want an easy to manage reporting solution for an enterprise
Exchange shop or a low cost messaging continuity solution for your Exchange
environment then have we go the solution for you! ;)

Yes, something like KVS or one of its competitors would be a much more
adequate solution. Not inexpensive to implement, but it will pay for itself
several times over the first time you have to comply with a discovery
request. BTW, in general it's been my experience that the other guy's lawyer
won't be the one looking over your should while you do discovery.. But YMMV.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Liddil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 1:00 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Policy issue
> 
> 
> I agree.  So if I read right you are suggesting this should 
> be a completely automated process.  So I should buy into a 
> KVS type solution or does messageone have something. :-).  
> I'd be happy to use the Mailbox Manager in E2K if I was 
> allowed to.  And yes I know it's my job, but I sure the heck 
> don't want to spend a week or more manually going through our 
> IS with a lawyer looking over my shoulder.
> 
> Jim
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 1:44 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Policy issue
> > 
> > 
> > Well, I'd join management in their resistance of an IT guy,
> > no matter how talented being the one to manually delete mail 
> > on a retention period, even if the policy contains proper 
> > exclusions for items which need to be retained longer (some 
> > of which need to be retained significanly longer than a 5 
> > year tape rotation). Sorry, I don't think it's an efficient 
> > use of someone that talented and it's too prone to human error.
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: James Liddil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 11:57 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Policy issue
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Our lawyer is quite familiar with our business and what 
> we do.  Not 
> > > to defend lawyers or anything.  They are well versed in 
> the 21CFR11 
> > > and FDA issues we face along with the legal implications 
> of having 
> > > "no policy" as we do now. So by default our policy for me 
> to follow 
> > > becomes keep everything and make sure backups are archived for 5 
> > > years.  No system is perfect but the fact is that if you have no 
> > > policy it then gives a lawyer who walks in the door for 
> "discovery" 
> > > purposes the right to sit and look over my shoulder while I go 
> > > through all the IS and tapes.
> > > 
> > > Jim
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 12:33 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: Policy issue
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > It's unlikely that you or the system itself has the ability to
> > > > delete mail in accordance with a well written retention 
> > policy (no
> > > > offense, I've been researching this subject for a book for quite
> > > > some time). If your legal counsel has simply given you a 
> > retention
> > > > policy of something like 'everything older than 120 days
> > should go'
> > > > then I'd respectfully suggest you ask your legal counsel
> > to revisit
> > > > the policy as it's woefully inadequate.. especially for 
> a company
> > > > such as yours.
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: James Liddil
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Sent: 10/4/2002 9:00 AM
> > > > Subject: Policy issue
> > > > 
> > > > I seem to be facing resistance from management on
> > implementation of
> > > > an e-mail policy.  Despite everything our legal counsel
> > provided and
> > > > such are not ready to go forward.
> > > > They have a problem with either the system of myself deleting
> > > > mail that past the retention period.  Some feel that a member 
> > > > of management should be the one deleting the e-mail.  I'm 
> > > > sure you can see what's wrong with that picture.  I am 
> > > > looking for advice, besides sit on my hands and wait until an 
> > > > event happens that forces them to implement a policy.
> > 
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