Buhler!

-----Original Message-----
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 2:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Policy issue


There is a fairly good white paper on this subject here:

http://www.ferris.com/

Look for White Paper: Email Archiving & Records Management in the sponsored
research section. It also lists a number of vendors that can accommodate
your needs.

-----Original Message-----
From: James Liddil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 2:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Policy issue


I agree.  So if I read right you are suggesting this should be a completely
automated process.  So I should buy into a KVS type solution or does
messageone have something. :-).  I'd be happy to use the Mailbox Manager in
E2K if I was allowed to.  And yes I know it's my job, but I sure the heck
don't want to spend a week or more manually going through our IS with a
lawyer looking over my shoulder.

Jim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 1:44 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Policy issue
> 
> 
> Well, I'd join management in their resistance of an IT guy,
> no matter how talented being the one to manually delete mail 
> on a retention period, even if the policy contains proper 
> exclusions for items which need to be retained longer (some 
> of which need to be retained significanly longer than a 5 
> year tape rotation). Sorry, I don't think it's an efficient 
> use of someone that talented and it's too prone to human error.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James Liddil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 11:57 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Policy issue
> > 
> > 
> > Our lawyer is quite familiar with our business and what we do.  Not 
> > to defend lawyers or anything.  They are well versed in the 21CFR11 
> > and FDA issues we face along with the legal implications of having 
> > "no policy" as we do now. So by default our policy for me to follow 
> > becomes keep everything and make sure backups are archived for 5 
> > years.  No system is perfect but the fact is that if you have no 
> > policy it then gives a lawyer who walks in the door for "discovery" 
> > purposes the right to sit and look over my shoulder while I go 
> > through all the IS and tapes.
> > 
> > Jim
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 12:33 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Policy issue
> > > 
> > > 
> > > It's unlikely that you or the system itself has the ability to
> > > delete mail in accordance with a well written retention 
> policy (no
> > > offense, I've been researching this subject for a book for quite
> > > some time). If your legal counsel has simply given you a 
> retention
> > > policy of something like 'everything older than 120 days
> should go'
> > > then I'd respectfully suggest you ask your legal counsel
> to revisit
> > > the policy as it's woefully inadequate.. especially for a company
> > > such as yours.
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: James Liddil
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Sent: 10/4/2002 9:00 AM
> > > Subject: Policy issue
> > > 
> > > I seem to be facing resistance from management on
> implementation of
> > > an e-mail policy.  Despite everything our legal counsel
> provided and
> > > such are not ready to go forward.
> > > They have a problem with either the system of myself deleting
> > > mail that past the retention period.  Some feel that a member 
> > > of management should be the one deleting the e-mail.  I'm 
> > > sure you can see what's wrong with that picture.  I am 
> > > looking for advice, besides sit on my hands and wait until an 
> > > event happens that forces them to implement a policy.
> 
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