Let me know if you change your mind! I enjoyed working with (for) you! Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 1:35 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering I'm sure CJ and others would support me in saying that I don't need the services of Exchange consultants. ------------------------------------------------------ Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:31 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > Can you please be my customer? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:28 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > An intelligent one? If that makes me different, so be it. > > I'm also the first to send an arse clown out the door for recommending > solutions that are way out of line. Like Exchange clusters. > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE > Sr. Systems Administrator > Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity > Atlanta, GA > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:25 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > > > > You must be a different type of a customer. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:03 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > > > > As a customer, I appreciate when I'm shown that I was wrong > > when planning to > > spend 100% more than I have to. Makes me want to use that > > provider again. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE > > Sr. Systems Administrator > > Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity > > Atlanta, GA > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 3:49 PM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > > > > > > > When a customer wants it AND wants to pay money for it... > > > customer is always right. :) > > > > > > Customers hate when one proves them wrong. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 12:14 PM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > > > > > > > Perhaps it would be better if you educated that customer on better > > > alternatives. Just as an aside, during Tony Redmond's session last > > > week he asked how many > > > in the audience were using clusters and I swear, a third of > > > the people there > > > raised their hands. I would have thought it a lot less. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:54 AM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > > > > > > > I prefer not to mess with Exchange clustering unless a > > > customer insists on > > > having a dedicated Exchange cluster. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:35 AM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > > > > > > > And when you deploy an Exchange cluster, that's exactly > > what you get! > > > > > > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I > > > Tech Consultant > > > hp Services > > > Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > > > Andrey Fyodorov > > > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 8:15 AM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > > > > > > > No I am just preparing for the worst-case scenario. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:11 AM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > > > > > > > If you're basing your life around 4 identical boxes that all > > > experience > > > hardware failures that close together, I suggest you > switch hardware > > > vendors. Fast. > > > > > > Keep in mind, too, that A/A/A/P means you're running Datacenter. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE > > > Sr. Systems Administrator > > > Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity > > > Atlanta, GA > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:04 AM > > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > > > > > > > > > > 3 Storage Groups on each node, right? :) > > > > > > > > I like the idea of a/a/a/p, but that's a one trick pony. You > > > > better hope that the other two nodes are not going to fail soon. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:59 AM > > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > > > > > > > > > > Which meant if you had 3 databases on each cluster, the other > > > > active node would fail as soon as it failed to mount one store > > > > too many. > > > > > > > > That's why MS now pushes a/a/a/p clustering. a/a was an > > unmitigated > > > > disaster. > > > > > > > > (:= > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andrey > > > > Fyodorov > > > > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 9:32 AM > > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > > > > > > > > > > No, according to the theory you can get more users on > > > > Active/Active because both cluster nodes are being used to do > > > > something useful. But if one fails, > > > > the other node better be able to take on the load. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Dennis Depp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 2:50 AM > > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > > > > > > > > > > Stay away from active/active. Go Active/passive instead. > > > You can get > > > > > > > more users on Active/Passive. > > > > > > > > Denny > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > > Imran Iqbal > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 5:36 AM > > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > Subject: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > > > > > > > > > > We are currently an Exchange 5.5 site, as part of our move > > > to Exchange > > > > > > > 2000 I am considering setting up Exchange on a 2 node > > Active Active > > > > cluster and would be interested in hearing anyone views or > > > real world > > > > experiences with similar setups. Each server would have > > about 800 > > > > active users and would probably be connected to a SAN for > > > the shared > > > > storage. > > > > > > > > I have heard that there were memory issues with this setup > > > pre SP3. 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