Can you please be my customer? -----Original Message----- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering
An intelligent one? If that makes me different, so be it. I'm also the first to send an arse clown out the door for recommending solutions that are way out of line. Like Exchange clusters. ------------------------------------------------------ Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:25 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > You must be a different type of a customer. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:03 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > As a customer, I appreciate when I'm shown that I was wrong > when planning to > spend 100% more than I have to. Makes me want to use that > provider again. > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE > Sr. Systems Administrator > Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity > Atlanta, GA > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 3:49 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > > > > When a customer wants it AND wants to pay money for it... > > customer is always right. :) > > > > Customers hate when one proves them wrong. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 12:14 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > > > > Perhaps it would be better if you educated that customer on better > > alternatives. > > Just as an aside, during Tony Redmond's session last week he > > asked how many > > in the audience were using clusters and I swear, a third of > > the people there > > raised their hands. I would have thought it a lot less. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:54 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > > > > I prefer not to mess with Exchange clustering unless a > > customer insists on > > having a dedicated Exchange cluster. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:35 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > > > > And when you deploy an Exchange cluster, that's exactly > what you get! > > > > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I > > Tech Consultant > > hp Services > > Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > > Andrey Fyodorov > > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 8:15 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > > > > No I am just preparing for the worst-case scenario. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:11 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > > > > If you're basing your life around 4 identical boxes that all > > experience > > hardware failures that close together, I suggest you switch hardware > > vendors. Fast. > > > > Keep in mind, too, that A/A/A/P means you're running Datacenter. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE > > Sr. Systems Administrator > > Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity > > Atlanta, GA > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:04 AM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > > > > > > > 3 Storage Groups on each node, right? :) > > > > > > I like the idea of a/a/a/p, but that's a one trick pony. You > > > better hope that the other two nodes are not going to fail soon. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:59 AM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > > > > > > > Which meant if you had 3 databases on each cluster, the other > > > active node > > > would fail as soon as it failed to mount one store too many. > > > > > > That's why MS now pushes a/a/a/p clustering. a/a was an > unmitigated > > > disaster. > > > > > > (:= > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > > Andrey Fyodorov > > > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 9:32 AM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > > > > > > > No, according to the theory you can get more users on > > > Active/Active because > > > both cluster nodes are being used to do something useful. But > > > if one fails, > > > the other node better be able to take on the load. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Dennis Depp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 2:50 AM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > > > > > > > Stay away from active/active. Go Active/passive instead. > > You can get > > > > > more users on Active/Passive. > > > > > > Denny > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > Imran Iqbal > > > Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 5:36 AM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > > > > > > > We are currently an Exchange 5.5 site, as part of our move > > to Exchange > > > > > 2000 I am considering setting up Exchange on a 2 node > Active Active > > > cluster and would be interested in hearing anyone views or > > real world > > > experiences with similar setups. Each server would have > about 800 > > > active users and would probably be connected to a SAN for > > the shared > > > storage. > > > > > > I have heard that there were memory issues with this setup > > pre SP3. 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