Depends on how you tell him... RIGHT WAY: Hey, looks like we can save a little money here...
WRONG WAY: You set it up stupid. I'm smarter than you. (:= -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andrey Fyodorov Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 3:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering You must be a different type of a customer. -----Original Message----- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 4:03 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering As a customer, I appreciate when I'm shown that I was wrong when planning to spend 100% more than I have to. Makes me want to use that provider again. ------------------------------------------------------ Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 3:49 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > When a customer wants it AND wants to pay money for it... > customer is always right. :) > > Customers hate when one proves them wrong. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 12:14 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > Perhaps it would be better if you educated that customer on better > alternatives. > Just as an aside, during Tony Redmond's session last week he > asked how many > in the audience were using clusters and I swear, a third of > the people there > raised their hands. I would have thought it a lot less. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:54 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > I prefer not to mess with Exchange clustering unless a > customer insists on > having a dedicated Exchange cluster. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:35 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > And when you deploy an Exchange cluster, that's exactly what you get! > > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I > Tech Consultant > hp Services > Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > Andrey Fyodorov > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 8:15 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > No I am just preparing for the worst-case scenario. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:11 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > If you're basing your life around 4 identical boxes that all > experience > hardware failures that close together, I suggest you switch hardware > vendors. Fast. > > Keep in mind, too, that A/A/A/P means you're running Datacenter. > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE > Sr. Systems Administrator > Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity > Atlanta, GA > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 11:04 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > > > > 3 Storage Groups on each node, right? :) > > > > I like the idea of a/a/a/p, but that's a one trick pony. You > > better hope that the other two nodes are not going to fail soon. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 10:59 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > > > > Which meant if you had 3 databases on each cluster, the other > > active node > > would fail as soon as it failed to mount one store too many. > > > > That's why MS now pushes a/a/a/p clustering. a/a was an unmitigated > > disaster. > > > > (:= > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > Andrey Fyodorov > > Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 9:32 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > > > > No, according to the theory you can get more users on > > Active/Active because > > both cluster nodes are being used to do something useful. But > > if one fails, > > the other node better be able to take on the load. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dennis Depp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 2:50 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > > > > Stay away from active/active. Go Active/passive instead. > You can get > > > more users on Active/Passive. > > > > Denny > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Imran Iqbal > > Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 5:36 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: Views on Exchange Active Active clustering > > > > > > We are currently an Exchange 5.5 site, as part of our move > to Exchange > > > 2000 I am considering setting up Exchange on a 2 node Active Active > > cluster and would be interested in hearing anyone views or > real world > > experiences with similar setups. Each server would have about 800 > > active users and would probably be connected to a SAN for > the shared > > storage. > > > > I have heard that there were memory issues with this setup > pre SP3. 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