You do, unless you install the DumpsterAlwaysOn registry hack.  Search
TechNet for DumpsterAlwaysOn, as typed, no spaces, for more details.
Then implement the registry hack on the user's Outlook, or whichever
machine you're going to use to try to recover his mail.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Orban
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 6:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Missing emails


Sorry to be such an idiot, but I thought you had to have the Deleted
Items folder selected. When I had the Inbox selected, there was nothing
in the RDI folder as I recall.

But I'll try again tomorrow.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 5:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Missing emails

Did you check that while the Inbox was selected?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Orban
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 2:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Missing emails


Yeah, we checked the "recover deleted items". He has used that in the
past to get back unintentionally deleted emails. I'm concerned that he
might have inadvertently deleted it while in Mail2Web which I'm not sure
would allow its recovery via RDI.

Thanks,

John

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Edgington,
Jeff
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 4:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Missing emails

Just to be clear.... you used 'recover deleted items' on the Inbox
right?  If he hit his mailbox with a POP client.. it will have done a
'delete in place'.

jeff e.



-----Original Message-----
From: John Orban [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 12:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Missing emails


I have a user who tells me that he has lost some important emails. He
says they were in his inbox just after Christmas and are not there now.
He has Outlook 2002 on his desktop and we are running Exchange 5.5 -
SP4.

1.)     We looked at "Recover Deleted Items" (I keep deleted items for
30 days.) Nothing there - so it is obvious he didn't delete them.
2.)     We did a search of all his mail folders and could turn up only
an email that he forwarded to another individual within the school. The
original was not found in the same search.
3.)     We searched his computer for archive files (and found two). We
examined the archives but the files were not there.
4.)     We searched his computer for all .pst files but other than the
archive files there were none.
5.)     I asked him about his home computer possibly pulling the email
messages down from the Exchange server without keeping a copy on the
server, but he had recently bought a new computer and had not had a
chance to set up the email client.
6.)     He does use Mail2Web to get email when he's out of the office,
but M2W doesn't appear to download mail from a server, it just looks at
it. However, if you delete it in M2W it will delete it from the server.
7.)     We looked at all the quarantine folders (we use iHateSpam), but
there was nothing there.
8.)     I sent him the help file that Outlook has concerning filtering
messages. I though maybe, by accident, he turned on a filter that
filtered out these messages somehow - although his mailbox is pretty
full.

He SWEARS he didn't delete it and due to the nature of the email I'm
pretty sure that he didn't.

When I posted this to an NT/W2K group I did get a response from someone
who said they had a similar problem when using Outlook rules to filter
spam. Evidently existing emails would just disappear.

The only other thing I can think of is that I do a weekly mailbox scan
of the Exchange Server running McAfee GroupShield 5.0. Prior to this I
had GroupShield delete any questionable email (now, I quarantine it for
exactly this situation). Obviously the email had not been deleted
before. Perhaps when a new DAT file was downloaded it could then have
figured this email was virus infected and deleted it??

I do have backup tapes of the Exchange database but to try and find them
would require building a new Exchange server, restoring the database,
etc.

Anyone have any ideas where else these files could be?

Thanks,

John Orban
System Administrator
The Country School

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