Drawn in?  Do you know the difference between being drawn in and
instigating?

As to your comparison with doctors, I have yet to ever visit our family
doctors' office building without seeing at least one and usually
multiple phamaceutical saleswomen, each loaded down with samples.  I
play a little game when I go there:  Spot the pharmaceutical saleswoman.
It's an easy game to play because they're usually blonde, leggy, nicely
dressed, wearing a nameplate, and carrying a large satchel.

As to your comparison with lawyers, lawyers do not sell or work with any
vendors' products.  Period.  They provide a personal service to
interpret the law.  The nature of their business cannot fairly be
compared to IT.  IT will only get to where you think it ought to be when
EVERYTHING is open source.  That will not happen in our lifetime.  My
salary is based on consulting on Microsoft technologies.  The small
stuff I get for being an MVP does not come nearly as close to affecting
my impartiality as does my job, which pays me actual money.  Even so, I
have a personal code of conduct, and I abide by those of the
professional organizations to which I belong, including the Institute of
Electrical and Electronics Engineers, and the IEEE Computer Society.

You've wandered off on your usual rant about how evil and unprofessional
the IT industry is (I seem to remember several such meanderings in the
past few years, Greg) all ticked off by your feelings about the MVP
Program.  Nothing you've posted in all your posts has supported your
supposition that we are biased because of the stuff we get from
Microsoft.  If you were 70, we could dismiss it as the ramblings of
senility.  However, since you're somewhat younger than that, I suggest
you seek professional help.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 6:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Shortcuts to Outlook objects


You're absolutely right, I let my emotions get the better of me. I am
deeply embarassed that I allowed myself to be drawn in to this
conversation. I apologize.

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 3:10 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > I am not and have never said that what MVP's do or do not do 
> > is a problem.
> 
> "MVP's are the worst of this lot. They secretly get direct 
> compensation from
> 
> Microsoft and then try to pass themselves off as unbiased. But you
> look at their posts and it is obvious that they are simply paid 
> advocates for Microsoft and part of their responsibility is to vilify 
> anyone that says anything negative with regards to Microsoft."
>       -Greg Deckler-
> 
> Don't lie to me Greg, I have more technology than patience.
> 
> > The granting of the title MVP and any rewards/compensation
> > that go with it is itself the problem. 
> 
> It seems to only be a problem for you.
> 
> > Yes, some MVP's have posted some critical comments.
> > Who cares? The problem is the fact that MVP's exist in the
> > first place.
> 
> Clearly it upsets you greatly.
> 
> > Here it is again:
> > -  The IT industry is vendor focused
> 
> In the words of Plato: Duh.
> 
> Having or not having MVPs won't change that.
> 
> > -  As long as the IT industry is vendor focused it will never
> > be a profession on par with doctors, lawyers, etc.
> 
> The IT profession is not the same kind of profession as law, to use 
> your oft-cited example. In fact it's not nearly so clear-cut as you 
> make it out to be.
> 
> > -  MVP status is in and of itself a conflict of interest
> 
> Whatever.
>  
> > interest. When a conflict of interest exists, it exists
> > regardless of whether people act inappropriately because of 
> > that conflict of interest.
> 
> Well, you certainly are quite agitated about this perceived conflict 
> of interest problem.  Good luck with that.
> 
> -Ben-
> Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
> Director of Information Services
> Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
> http://www.hawaiilawyer.com

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