HIPAA does provide detail for securing non-electronic transmission of
Personal information.  Basically -- it has to be sealed and trackable
(Rewgistered mail, UPS, FedEx, etc.)

There is information and instruction available at http://www.hipaa.org and
http://www.ahima.org.  AHIMA also provides a series of online classes for
$1100 which provide a form of individual IT HIPAA accreditation.

-Patrick R. Sweeney
http://boston.craigslist.org/bos/res/8484283.html
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Scharff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: Exchange server level encryption-OT


> Not an expert on the science behind this essay
> http://tnr.com/docprint.mhtml?i=20030224&s=easterbrook022403, but the idea
> of needing to use nuclear power plants to product the levels of hydrogen
> needed for 'clean fuel cells' seems to make the "water is the only
> byproduct" argument a bit disingenuous. Course as I said, I'm not an
expert
> on the subject so I'm certainly open to knowing where the levels of
hydrogen
> needed for such a thing would come from.
>
> Perhaps instead of replacing HIPPA, those companies subject to its
> regulations need to rethink how and why patient data would need to leave
> their environment and design secure systems (which e-mail aint) to
> facilitate that transmittal. Course the reality is companies aren't really
> interested in protecting patient data, just in being compliant with the
> various regulatory agencies which govern them. So, following the cheapest
> route to compliance they encounter the reality that cheap aint easy.
>
> On 2/25/03 16:06, "Christopher Hummert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Ok I knew I shouldn't have used that example, cause I knew somewhere we
> were going to get into a debate about it. In addition I should have said
> Hydrogen Fuel Cells which is what I was thinking of when I made the
> statement. As far as the pollution:
>
> Fuel cells efficiently convert hydrogen fuel and oxygen from the air
> into electricity. Hydrogen fuel cell electric vehicles (HFCEVs) emit
> only water vapor from their exhaust pipes. Demonstrations of HFCEVs have
> been successful and this technology is expected to displace internal
> combustion engines in the 21st Century.
>
> Which I got from pretty much the first thing I could google up here:
> http://www.hydrogencomponents.com/altfuel.html
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mellott, Bill
> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 2:02 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Exchange server level encryption-OT
>
>
> Chris Im curious how do you figure this statement? Next thing you'll
> drag in Hybrids ...
>
> "It's the same problem you have with cars
> today. Gasoline engines produce pollution, so to change this we could
> move to hydrogen engines which are pollution free. But the
> infrastructure isn't there."
>
> While I agree hydrogen engines maybe more friendly...they do produce
> pollution AND the infrastructure you correctly point out which is not
> there really WILL in fact produce pollution to make the pieces/stuff
> required for the "cleaner part".
>
> Let me ask this..IF say you put a refrigerator in a  "sealed"
> room...plug it in...leave the Fridge door open....what happens in the
> room?
>
> there no free lunch...just more healthy...
> ;-)
>
> bill
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 4:42 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Exchange server level encryption
>
>
> Except that none of our clients have heard about PGP. That's one of the
> problems with HIPPA, the solutions they want don't exist for a device
> that was developed back in the 60's (I think I got the time right, I'm
> not going to check though). It's the same problem you have with cars
> today. Gasoline engines produce pollution, so to change this we could
> move to hydrogen engines which are pollution free. But the
> infrastructure isn't there. Same thing with e-mail and encryption.
> That's one of the reasons HIPPA deadlines keeps getting pushed back.
>
> Then with a solution like PGP you have to teach the users how to use it.
> That's a nightmare that I don't ever want to repeat again. Hell half of
> the users I taught have a hard time figuring out what the "start button"
> is, and it's right there in front of their face.
>
> The big problem with HIPPA was that it was designed by bureaucrats (who
> BTW were probably the same users that have a hard time with the start
> button thing) that wanted to do something to protect the people that
> vote for them. Except there wasn't a major problem to begin with. Sure
> there were a few slight mishaps here and there, but the industry was
> doing a fine job of learning from those mistakes and creating new
> solutions to prevent those from happening again.
>
> In addition to the design problems with HIPPA, you have the fact that
> it's become so bloated that no one knows exactly what it is or what you
> need to do. While you run into some so called "HIPPA expert" that says
> you need to do one thing, you can always find another that says you
> don't need to do that.
>
> Flat out HIPPA needs to go, and be replaced by something that's a little
> more well thought out.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Erik Sojka
> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 1:25 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Exchange server level encryption
>
>
> Yup.  But PGP is one of the most widely deployed encryption packages and
> has software for various client and server packages.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Erick Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 4:19 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Exchange server level encryption
> >
> >
> > Doesn't PGP suffer from the same problem, where the recipients need to
>
> > have a PGP key set up?
> >
> > Erick
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ken Cornetet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 12:38 PM
> > Subject: RE: Exchange server level encryption
> >
> >
> > I'll assume you are talking about SMIME encryption here. What you want
>
> > to do is not possible in the general sense. You need the recipient's
> > public key in order to encrypt their mail. You would have to have a
> > predefined list of all possible recipients and their public keys. Even
>
> > if you had this list, I know of no products that implement this (but
> > then again, I've never looked)
> >
> > You could probably rig something up using PGP on a unix box as an
> > outbound gateway. But then all your recipients would need PGP to read
> > the mail.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 3:25 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Exchange server level encryption
> >
> >
> > Ok, my eyes are going crossed.
> > I have been trying to figure out a decent way to encrypt all outbound
> > email from our company. This is for compliance with HIPAA. Does anyone
>
> > happen to have any ideas?
> >
> > I have googled and haven't found a product that looks right. I have
> > searched for "exchange 2000 encryption", "email encryption", etc.
> > Help?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Mike
>
>
>
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