My guess is that it will be roughly equivalent to the law in the city of Kennesaw, Georgia (suburban Atlanta) in which the city requires all home owners to own a gun. To date, no one has been prosecuted for breaking that law.
-------------------------------------------------------------- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 7:57 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers > > > Seems like that disclaimer ("I do not give permission to > forward") would be unnecessary. If the law requires express > permission then the absence of any disclaimer wouldn't > constitute permission and thus unless the message > specifically said "I *DO* give permission to forward" it > would be illegal to forward it. > > I'll be curious to know how many people they actually get > prosecuted under this law. > > Aloha, > > -Ben- > Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote, CNA, MCPx4 > Director of Information Services > Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert > http://www.hawaiilawyer.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Steve Molkentin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 13:28 > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers > > > > Scott, and others, > > > > I totally get your point, and to some degree agree. > > > > An interesting addition... > > > > The Australian federal govt recently (last year) passed > > legislation to say that it is illegal to forward and e-mail > > without the authors express permission. > > > > Thus, a whole NEW addition to the disclaimer in Australia is > > popping up, saying that the author DOES NOT give permission > > for the e-mail to be forwarded. > > > > I think, whether we like it or not, the disclaimer is here to > > stay... It is how we as Admins manage it. > > > > My additional $0.02 (inc GST). > > > > themolk. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Akerlund, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Thursday, 19 June 2003 9:24 AM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers > > > > > > > > > Well I am not a legal speagle by any means, but the > > disclaimer issue > > > it bad joke. The true responsibility of who the message > > went to is in > > > the hands of the sender. If the message was addressed > > correctly then > > > the need for disclaimers would be a non-issue. > > > > > > Sorry I watched this thread long enough that I had to put > > my two cents > > > in there. I find it hard that anyone should accept the burden of > > > responsibility for receiving an electronic message that > was sent to > > > them by > > > mistake. And > > > those disclaimers that try to shift the burden of > responiblity from > > > the shoulders of the sender to the reciever are a sad > > attempt at just > > > that. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Steve Molkentin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 3:34 PM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers > > > > > > > > > What about Klingon and Elvish? Google is available in both, > > so people > > > must speak it. Should we not then make disclaimers > > available in these > > > languages too? > > > > > > themolk. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Thursday, 19 June 2003 12:13 AM > > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > Subject: Re: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers > > > > > > > > > > > > About a billion people on this planet speak Chinese ... going to > > > > included that as well ? I like the fact you are going to > > > add Dutch to > > > > the disclaimer, but around 99% of the Dutch population > speaks and > > > > understands English very well. > > > > > > > > ** Please prefix your subject header with BETA for posts > > > dealing with > > > > Exchange 2003 ** > > > > -------------------------- > > > > Martin Tuip > > > > MVP Exchange > > > > Exchange 2000 List owner > > > > www.exchange-mail.org > > > > www.sharepointserver.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -------------------------- > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Midgley, Ian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 4:10 PM > > > > Subject: RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yup, Greek and Double-Dutch are in the list of languages > > > > that need to > > > > > be covered. Web links are unacceptable since there is > no way of > > > > > checking whether the recipient clicked the link, or they > > > > might not be > > > > > online when they read the message. > > > > > > > > > > We thought of using Latin since most of the legal team > > know that. > > > > Esperanto > > > > > is a bit too leading edge. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Shotton Jolyon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Sent: 18 June 2003 13:54 > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > > Subject: RE: Brick level backups - legal disclaimers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Has* anyone tested email disclaimers in the courts in the > > > > UK, EU or > > > > > US? > > > > > > > > > > I'm not aware of any cases. > > > > > > > > > > I do find it ironic that lawyers, who knowingly write in > > > a way that > > > > > most people do not find clear, should be concerned that the > > > > disclaimer > > > > > should > > > > be > > > > > written so as to be understood by any recipient. It's > > > all Greek to > > > > > me. > > > > Or > > > > > double-Dutch. > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps your disclaimer could consist of "Legal disclaimer > > > > - you must > > > > > read this" in every relevant language, each linked to a web > > > > page which > > > > > contains the text in that language. > > > > > > > > > > Or write it in Esperanto. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Sent: 18 June 2003 14:07 > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > > > Subject: RE: Brick level backups > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's not funny !! I'm currently involved in discussions > > > with our > > > > > legal team regarding the validity of English language > > > > disclaimers on > > > > > messages written in various different European languages > > > > (we route all > > > > > our Internet mail through a single SMTP gateway in the UK). > > > > The legal > > > > > team are pushing > > > > to > > > > > add disclaimers in each language. > > > > > > > > > > Just because no-one ever reads disclaimers doesn't mean > > > > that they are > > > > > not legally applicable - when was the last time you > read the MS > > > > > license agreement when installing software? 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