Then you've got something strange going on with your IMS. -------------------------------------------------------------- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc.
> -----Original Message----- > From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 2:10 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: misconfigured sender > > > I should say, is able to receive mail form all other domains but ours. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Friese, Casey > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 2:09 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: misconfigured sender > > > That makes perfect sense James...thanks for the info > > Kpafilms however does receive mail from all other domains but our's > > -----Original Message----- > From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 12:17 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: misconfigured sender > > > Let's go back to the MX record: > > kpafilms.com MX preference = 10, mail exchanger = mail.kpafilms.com > (This server is fine) > > kpafilms.com MX preference = 5, mail exchanger = mi.kpafilms.com > (server is not down...it is just refusing connections on port 25, so > it's not going to roll over to the next server). > > This is why nothing addressed to @kpafilms.com is going thru > but e-mail > addressed to @mail.kpafilms.com is. > > Internal name vs. external name isn't going to matter. That's all > internal to their DNS stuff. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 6:52 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: misconfigured sender > > > more info I gleaned from their IT guy: > > Mi.kpafilms.com is the MX record for the server with an internal dns > name of KPAMIS01.kpafilms.com Mail.kpafilms.com is the MX > record for the > server with an internal dns name of EXCBD01.kpafilms.com > > Because the MX recs and the actual machine names don't match, is that > possibly stopping my messages from getting to them? When I > look at the > headers of messages they send me, the internal dns name of > their sending > server is being sent as: Received: from exbdc01.kpafilms.com > ([12.155.200.200]). The 12.155.200.200 IP is actually the IP of > mail.kpafilms.com, to the internet, exbdc01.kpafilms.com > doesn't exist. > I'm pulling at things here, I know this probably shouldn't have a > bearing on whether or not I can send mail to them because I > can send to > them from any other account. > > Also, if mi.kpafilms.com is down, shouldn't mail.kpafilms.com > take over > it's load? I'm puzzled that since I can send mail from outlook to > [EMAIL PROTECTED], why when I send to [EMAIL PROTECTED], is > the mail not sent to the second MX record since the first one is down? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 5:25 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: misconfigured sender > > > Well, let me take a stab at this... > > Because of this: > kpafilms.com MX preference = 10, mail exchanger = mail.kpafilms.com > kpafilms.com MX preference = 5, mail exchanger = mi.kpafilms.com > > Due to your MX record, all mail addressed to kpafilms.com is going to > MI.kpafilms.com, which is not allowing connections on port > 25. However, > when you send directly to mail.kpafilms.com, it allows the connection. > -----Original Message----- > From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 12:51 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: misconfigured sender > > > OK, why would I be able to send to the mx record of the domain and not > the domain itself? > > Example: > > Sending to [EMAIL PROTECTED] sits in my queue and wont deliver > > But > > If I send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it get's delivered fine > > Mail.kpafilms.com is the MX record > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 3:12 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: misconfigured sender > > > Can we get the full headers for that NDR? > > Steven > --- > Steven Dickenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Network Administrator > The Key School, Annapolis Maryland > > -----Original Message----- > From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 3:07 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: misconfigured sender > > > Sorry Roger if I butchered the NDR...here's exactly what it says (very > unimformative) > I guess it would be more approiate to call it a Dilvery > delayed report, > we never receive and actual NDR and the recipient never receives the > message. > > This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification. > > THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY. > > YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE. > > Delivery to the following recipients has been delayed. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 12:34 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: misconfigured sender > > > Seeing as Casey has butchered the NDR's its nearly impossible to tell > what's actually happening. > > However, its not *completely* impossible. penncolor.com *is* > delivering > the mail, and the reject is coming from their end: > > > Received: from exbdc01.kpafilms.com > > mail.kpafilms.com[12.155.200.200](misconfigured sender)) > > Their Exchange (I presume) server (exbdc01.kpafilms.com) is rejecting > the mail from their mail relay (mail.kpafilms.com), as is clearly > spelled out by this slice of NDR. > > And, in this case, the fix is the same for Ex 5.5 and for E2k > - beat the > foreign postmaster about the head and shoulders with a 2x4 until they > fix their mail issues. > > Roger > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP > Sr. Systems Administrator > Inovis Inc. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 11:52 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: misconfigured sender > > > > > > For some reason, it would appear that your mail server is > delaying the > > > message, instead of trying the next highest MX record. > Having two MX > > records, with the first being unavailable, is common practice (at > > least in the *nix world), where the higher-level MX is an SMTP > > gateway. > > > > Unfortunately, I can't tell you how to fix this, I'm still on Ex5.5. > > > > Steven > > --- > > Steven Dickenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Network Administrator > > The Key School, Annapolis Maryland > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 11:48 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: misconfigured sender > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > Server is E2K > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > > My company is having problems sending mail to another > company (simply > > put) > > > > NDRs received state the following: > > > > "Deliver to the following recipient has been delayed." > > > > The NDR is received days after being sent. > > > > I've verified that I can send to the other company from an account > > outside of our domain (hotmail for example) > > > > The message header received from the other company when sending mail > > to us looks as follows: > > > > [SNIP] > > Received: from exbdc01.kpafilms.com > > mail.kpafilms.com[12.155.200.200](misconfigured sender)) [SNIP] > > www.dnsreport.com shows that the domain has 2 MX records and the > > primary is unreachable. > > > > > > > > [SNIP] > > 10 mail.kpafilms.com. > > 5 mi.kpafilms.com. > > > > ERROR: I could not connect to one or more of your mailservers: > > mi.kpafilms.com: Timed out [Last data sent: QUIT ] > > [SNIP] > > > > Question: > > > > Is there anything I can do on my end to allow this mail to > go through? > > > I suspect that something has changed on the other company's end > > because until the 25th of June, we had no problems sending to them. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Casey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Web Interface: > > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t > ext_mode=&lang > =english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t > ext_mode=& > lang > =english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t > ext_mode=& > lang=english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t > ext_mode=& > lang > =english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t > ext_mode=& > lang=english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t > ext_mode=& > lang > =english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t ext_mode=& lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
