Casey,
        Try sending an e-mail to me.  Our MX records are similar to
kpafilms.com, in that our primary MX will refuse connections, but our
secondary MX is fine.  Send me a test message at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Steven
---
Steven Dickenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Network Administrator
The Key School, Annapolis Maryland 

-----Original Message-----
From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 4:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


I was thinking that as well, just not sure where to look and we can
receive and send mail to everyone so if it's something strange with my
IMS then it's my IMS having a grudge against kpafilms.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 4:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: misconfigured sender


Then you've got something strange going on with your IMS.

--------------------------------------------------------------
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 2:10 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: misconfigured sender
> 
> 
> I should say, is able to receive mail form all other domains but ours.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Friese, Casey
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 2:09 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: misconfigured sender
> 
> 
> That makes perfect sense James...thanks for the info
> 
> Kpafilms however does receive mail from all other domains but our's
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 12:17 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: misconfigured sender
> 
> 
> Let's go back to the MX record:
> 
> kpafilms.com    MX preference = 10, mail exchanger = mail.kpafilms.com
> (This server is fine)
> 
> kpafilms.com    MX preference = 5, mail exchanger = mi.kpafilms.com
> (server is not down...it is just refusing connections on port 25, so 
> it's not going to roll over to the next server).
> 
> This is why nothing addressed to @kpafilms.com is going thru
> but e-mail
> addressed to @mail.kpafilms.com is.
> 
> Internal name vs. external name isn't going to matter.  That's all 
> internal to their DNS stuff.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 6:52 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: misconfigured sender
> 
> 
> more info I gleaned from their IT guy:
> 
> Mi.kpafilms.com is the MX record for the server with an internal dns 
> name of KPAMIS01.kpafilms.com Mail.kpafilms.com is the MX record for 
> the server with an internal dns name of EXCBD01.kpafilms.com
> 
> Because the MX recs and the actual machine names don't match, is that 
> possibly stopping my messages from getting to them?  When I look at 
> the headers of messages they send me, the internal dns name of
> their sending
> server is being sent as: Received: from exbdc01.kpafilms.com
> ([12.155.200.200]).  The 12.155.200.200 IP is actually the IP of
> mail.kpafilms.com, to the internet, exbdc01.kpafilms.com 
> doesn't exist.
> I'm pulling at things here, I know this probably shouldn't have a
> bearing on whether or not I can send mail to them because I 
> can send to
> them from any other account.
> 
> Also, if mi.kpafilms.com is down, shouldn't mail.kpafilms.com
> take over
> it's load?  I'm puzzled that since I can send mail from outlook to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], why when I send to [EMAIL PROTECTED], is
> the mail not sent to the second MX record since the first one is down?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 5:25 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: misconfigured sender
> 
> 
> Well, let me take a stab at this...
> 
> Because of this:
> kpafilms.com    MX preference = 10, mail exchanger = mail.kpafilms.com
> kpafilms.com    MX preference = 5, mail exchanger = mi.kpafilms.com
> 
> Due to your MX record, all mail addressed to kpafilms.com is going to 
> MI.kpafilms.com, which is not allowing connections on port 25.  
> However, when you send directly to mail.kpafilms.com, it allows the 
> connection. -----Original Message-----
> From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 12:51 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: misconfigured sender
> 
> 
> OK, why would I be able to send to the mx record of the domain and not

> the domain itself?
> 
> Example:
> 
> Sending to [EMAIL PROTECTED] sits in my queue and wont deliver
> 
> But
> 
> If I send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it get's delivered fine
> 
> Mail.kpafilms.com is the MX record
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 3:12 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: misconfigured sender
> 
> 
> Can we get the full headers for that NDR?
> 
> Steven
> ---
> Steven Dickenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Network Administrator
> The Key School, Annapolis Maryland
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 3:07 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: misconfigured sender
> 
> 
> Sorry Roger if I butchered the NDR...here's exactly what it says (very
> unimformative)
> I guess it would be more approiate to call it a Dilvery
> delayed report,
> we never receive and actual NDR and the recipient never receives the
> message.
> 
> This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.
> 
> THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY.
> 
> YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE.
> 
> Delivery to the following recipients has been delayed.
> 
>        [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 12:34 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: misconfigured sender
> 
> 
> Seeing as Casey has butchered the NDR's its nearly impossible to tell 
> what's actually happening.
> 
> However, its not *completely* impossible. penncolor.com *is*
> delivering
> the mail, and the reject is coming from their end:
> 
> > Received: from exbdc01.kpafilms.com
> > mail.kpafilms.com[12.155.200.200](misconfigured sender))
> 
> Their Exchange (I presume) server (exbdc01.kpafilms.com) is rejecting 
> the mail from their mail relay (mail.kpafilms.com), as is clearly 
> spelled out by this slice of NDR.
> 
> And, in this case, the fix is the same for Ex 5.5 and for E2k
> - beat the
> foreign postmaster about the head and shoulders with a 2x4 until they
> fix their mail issues.
> 
> Roger
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis Inc.
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 11:52 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: misconfigured sender
> > 
> > 
> > For some reason, it would appear that your mail server is
> delaying the
> 
> > message, instead of trying the next highest MX record.
> Having two MX
> > records, with the first being unavailable, is common practice (at
> > least in the *nix world), where the higher-level MX is an SMTP 
> > gateway.
> > 
> > Unfortunately, I can't tell you how to fix this, I'm still on Ex5.5.
> > 
> > Steven
> > ---
> > Steven Dickenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Network Administrator
> > The Key School, Annapolis Maryland
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Friese, Casey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 11:48 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: misconfigured sender
> > 
> > 
> > Greetings,
> > 
> > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> > Server is E2K
> > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> > 
> > My company is having problems sending mail to another
> company (simply
> > put)
> > 
> > NDRs received state the following:
> > 
> > "Deliver to the following recipient has been delayed."
> > 
> > The NDR is received days after being sent.
> > 
> > I've verified that I can send to the other company from an account
> > outside of our domain (hotmail for example)
> > 
> > The message header received from the other company when sending mail

> > to us looks as follows:
> > 
> > [SNIP]
> > Received: from exbdc01.kpafilms.com
> > mail.kpafilms.com[12.155.200.200](misconfigured sender)) [SNIP] 
> > www.dnsreport.com shows that the domain has 2 MX records and the 
> > primary is unreachable.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > [SNIP]
> > 10  mail.kpafilms.com.
> > 5  mi.kpafilms.com.
> > 
> > ERROR: I could not connect to one or more of your mailservers:
> > mi.kpafilms.com: Timed out [Last data sent: QUIT ]
> > [SNIP]
> > 
> > Question:
> > 
> > Is there anything I can do on my end to allow this mail to
> go through?
> 
> > I suspect that something has changed on the other company's end
> > because until the 25th of June, we had no problems sending to them.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Casey
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
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