Oh no, it's another flamefest developing. <duck and cover> -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Carlson Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:11 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: New Entourage
[1] I hate grammar Nazi's. This is email, not English class. G37 0V3R 17!! [2] I did RTFM. I guess I just didn't get to the part about Public Folders not showing up correctly. I figured since I was browsing through the recent posts, I would just ask a simple question and see what others results were before I went home to try and figure it out. I installed it last night, set up the account and looked at the public folders. About 10 minutes of time spent so far. As far as you being too important, I wasn't referring to the free/busy server issue, I was referring to this: > >> [3] And I don't really care all that much because I'm playing with cooler > >> Exchange tools for both the PC and Mac at the moment than > >> Entourage, which > >> at the moment is working 'good enough' for my needs. If you don't really care, why even reply? [3] If everyone RTFM from front to back before they even installed the app, these lists would be little more than haiku Fridays. I think you need to get off your high horse. If your only worth while response is going to be RTFM, then why bother sending an email? -Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.uselessthoughts.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Scharff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:32 PM Subject: Re: New Entourage > It's "you're" not "your". And don't blame me for your inability to > RTFM. This is indeed a peer support newsgroup; if you don't like my > responses feel > free to add me to your killfile. I couldn't care less. > > Indicating I don't have time to go troubleshoot free/busy issues on my > machine is hardly an attempt to blow off about how important I am. I > was simply pointing out the only unexpected issue I've seen with the > Exchange update for Entourage. The "issue" you describe seems to be > expected behavior > based on the help files, but I guess you're too important to read > those and > need the rest of us to do your work for you. > > > > From: "Mike Carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 15:08:13 -0500 > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: New Entourage > > > > Well your a happy guy. Thanks for the great answer there. For a > > minute I thought this a group to help each other out, not blow off > > about how important we are. > > > > Since I am not at home and not near a Mac with Entourage installed, > > I cant > > really read the help file right now. I figured if you didn't see the same > > issue I would dig further, if you didn't see the same issue, I > > wouldn't worry about it right now. > > > > I would figure the appropriate response would be: > > > > 1. I don't have any public folders of calendar or contact type so I > > cant test it > > > > OR > > > > 2. Yes/No > > > > Since you were so helpful, I wont comment on my status of the > > free/busy server thing either since I have cooler things to play as > > well. > > > > =) > > > > -Mike Carlson > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.uselessthoughts.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Chris Scharff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:48 PM > > Subject: Re: New Entourage > > > > > >> Do I see.... Have you read the help files yet? The client is > >> working as I > >> would expect it to work for me at the moment based on my reading of > >> the > > help > >> files. With the exception of the free/busy server which I haven't > >> had time > >> to look into.[1] > >> > >> [1] Since Macs aren't supported on my network, it has pretty low > >> priority.[2] [2] Plus it's my Mac, which puts it even lower on the > >> priority list.[3] [3] And I don't really care all that much because > >> I'm playing with cooler > >> Exchange tools for both the PC and Mac at the moment than > >> Entourage, which > >> at the moment is working 'good enough' for my needs. > >> > >>> From: "Mike Carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 14:24:45 -0500 > >>> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> Subject: Re: New Entourage > >>> > >>> Do you see the same issues of Calendar or Contact type public > >>> folders looking like IMAP folders and not actual contacts or > >>> calendar entries? > >>> > >>> -Mike Carlson > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> http://www.uselessthoughts.com > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Chris Scharff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:05 PM > >>> Subject: Re: New Entourage > >>> > >>> > >>>> It works just fine in E2K. The Entourage help files contain quite > >>>> a bit > > of > >>>> information, might try reading those for what the expected > > functionality > >>> is. > >>>> > >>>>> From: "Atkinson, Daniel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 17:18:53 +0100 > >>>>> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>> Subject: RE: New Entourage > >>>>> > >>>>> Ok, can anyone confirm how it works with E2K? > >>>>> > >>>>> With 5.5 you get what looks like an IMAP connection... > >>>>> > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> Sent: 06 August 2003 16:41 > >>>>> To: Exchange Discussions > >>>>> Subject: RE: New Entourage > >>>>> > >>>>> Its designed for E2K or higher > >>>>> > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:37 AM > >>>>> To: Exchange Discussions > >>>>> Subject: RE: New Entourage > >>>>> > >>>>> I got the same results you did, using Entourage with an Exchange > >>>>> 5.5 > >>> server. > >>>>> Does it maybe work better with 2000? > >>>>> > >>>>> -Peter > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> From: Mike Carlson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 5:38 > >>>>> To: Exchange Discussions > >>>>> Subject: Re: New Entourage > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> I myself don't like the Entourage update for Office X. I don't > >>>>> get > >>> anything > >>>>> more than I did with IMAP it seems. Any public folders that are > >>>>> set to > >>> be of > >>>>> Calendar type or Contact type don't show up correctly. > >>>>> > >>>>> Is there a list of specific benefits of the update over just > >>>>> using > > IMAP? > >>>>> > >>>>> -Mike Carlson > >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> http://www.uselessthoughts.com > >>>>> > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>> From: "Atkinson, Daniel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:11 AM > >>>>> Subject: RE: New Entourage > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> I'm thinking about trying out citrix.... > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>> From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>> Sent: 05 August 2003 19:44 > >>>>>>> To: Exchange Discussions > >>>>>>> Subject: RE: New Entourage > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So are OSX Macs therefore doomed to OWA, or is there an alternative? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>> From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:44 PM > >>>>>>> To: Exchange Discussions > >>>>>>> Subject: RE: New Entourage > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I think they did away with Outlook because they were in the > >>>>>>> semi-absurd situation of maintaining three entirely different > >>>>>>> mail clients for the Mac, none of which made everyone, happy, > >>>>>>> and two of which weren't OS X native, so they needed major > >>>>>>> upgrades, and were free. I don't find it at all > >>>>>>> incomprehensable that they'd concentrate their resources on > >>>>>>> the product that generates some revenue. As far as Entourage's > >>>>>>> new Exchange awareness goes, it's about what you'd expect from > >>>>>>> a point upgrade. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -Peter > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>> From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:25 > >>>>>>> To: Exchange Discussions > >>>>>>> Subject: RE: New Entourage > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I don't doubt it. That makes perfect business sense. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:43 AM > >>>>>>>> To: Exchange Discussions > >>>>>>>> Subject: RE: New Entourage > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> My personal opinion is that they did away with Outlook for > >>>>>>>> the Mac because OS X, especially Jaguar (10.2.x) is the first > >>>>>>>> OS with a legitimate chance of > >>>>>>>> displacing Microsoft from their dominance of the desktop. > >>>>>>> It meets the > >>>>>>>> requirements of having Microsoft Office (Word/Excel/etc). > >>>>>>>> Therefore, the only missing app is a full blown Outlook > >>>>>>>> client. Its Microsoft's only way to > >>>>>>>> stop the tide without giving up their entire Mac offering. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Roger > >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>> - > >>>>>>>> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP > >>>>>>>> Sr. Systems Administrator > >>>>>>>> Inovis Inc. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>> From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:11 AM > >>>>>>>>> To: Exchange Discussions > >>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: New Entourage > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> This is more venting than any serious question: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> What about MAPI? (Outlook for OfficeX-1) > >>>>>>>>> What about RPC over HTTP? (I know that would have to be > >>>>>>>>> coded from scratch) You must enable IMAP on your Exchange > >>>>>>>>> server? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Why did they get rid of the Outlook product? Why make an > >>>>>>>>> organization with Macs go through so many hoops? It's not > >>>>>>>>> like they have to code from scratch. > >>>>>>>>> It makes no sense. The whole idea is to make the products > >>>>>>>> across both > >>>>>>>>> platforms the same or mostly the same. They didn't take > >>>>>>>>> Word or Excel, retool it, take out some important features > >>>>>>>>> and call it something else, did > >>>>>>>>> they? Keerist!! > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>>> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 4:02 PM > >>>>>>>>>> To: Exchange Discussions > >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: New Entourage > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Depends on how one defines Exchange aware. If by Exchange > >>>>>>>>>> aware, you mean 'it's Outlook' then no. If understanding > >>>>>>>>>> free/busy and > >>>>>>>> and automatic > >>>>>>>>>> configuration of address book and other account settings to > >>>>>>>>>> support Exchange qualifies, then maybe. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> From: "Erik Sojka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>>>>>>> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 15:29:57 -0400 > >>>>>>>>>>> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: New Entourage > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I haven't looked at it yet, but it wouldn't be > >>>>>>>>>> Exchange-aware if it was, > >>>>>>>>>>> right? When we looked at this for our lone Mac user ~18 > >>>>>>>>>> months ago we had to > >>>>>>>>>>> settle for the previous version of Outlook and the user > >>>>>>>>>>> had > >>>>>>>>>> to switch between > >>>>>>>>>>> OSX for Office and OS9 for Outlook since we didn't want to > >>>>>>>>>> open up IMAP or > >>>>>>>>>>> POP3 for him. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ______________________________________________________________ > >>>>>>> ___ > >>>>>>>>>> List posting FAQ: > >>>>>>> http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > >>>>>>>>>> Web Interface: > >>>>>>>>>> http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchang > >>>>>>>>>> e&t > >>>>>>>>> ext_mode=&lang=english > >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>>>> Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>> List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > >>>>>>>>> Web Interface: > >>>>>>>>> http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange > >>>>>>>>> &t > >>>>>>>> ext_mode=&lang=english > >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>>> Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> _____________________________________________________________ > >>>>>>>> ____ > >>>>>>>> List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > >>>>>>>> Web Interface: > >>>>>>>> http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&; > >>>>>>>> t > >>>>>>> ext_mode=&lang=english > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>> Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________ > >>>>>>> List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > >>>>>>> Web Interface: > >>>>>>> http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t > >>>>>> ext_mode=&lang > >>>>>> =english > >>>>>> To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ______________________________________________ > >>>>>> This message is private or privileged. 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