I myself don't like the Entourage update for Office X. I don't get anything
more than I did with IMAP it seems. Any public folders that are set to be of
Calendar type or Contact type don't show up correctly.

Is there a list of specific benefits of the update over just using IMAP?

-Mike Carlson
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http://www.uselessthoughts.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Atkinson, Daniel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:11 AM
Subject: RE: New Entourage


> I'm thinking about trying out citrix....
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 05 August 2003 19:44
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: New Entourage
> >
> >
> > So are OSX Macs therefore doomed to OWA, or is there an alternative?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:44 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: New Entourage
> >
> > I think they did away with Outlook because they were in the
> > semi-absurd situation of maintaining three entirely different
> > mail clients for the Mac, none of which made everyone, happy,
> > and two of which weren't OS X native, so they needed major
> > upgrades, and were free. I don't find it at all
> > incomprehensable that they'd concentrate their resources on
> > the product that generates some revenue. As far as
> > Entourage's new Exchange awareness goes, it's about what
> > you'd expect from a point upgrade.
> >
> > -Peter
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:25
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: New Entourage
> >
> >
> > I don't doubt it.  That makes perfect business sense.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:43 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: New Entourage
> > >
> > >
> > > My personal opinion is that they did away with Outlook for
> > > the Mac because
> > > OS X, especially Jaguar (10.2.x) is the first OS with a
> > > legitimate chance of
> > > displacing Microsoft from their dominance of the desktop.
> > It meets the
> > > requirements of having Microsoft Office (Word/Excel/etc).
> > > Therefore, the
> > > only missing app is a full blown Outlook client. Its
> > > Microsoft's only way to
> > > stop the tide without giving up their entire Mac offering.
> > >
> > > Roger
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> > > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > > Inovis Inc.
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:11 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: New Entourage
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This is more venting than any serious question:
> > > >
> > > > What about MAPI? (Outlook for OfficeX-1)
> > > > What about RPC over HTTP? (I know that would have to be coded
> > > > from scratch)
> > > > You must enable IMAP on your Exchange server?
> > > >
> > > > Why did they get rid of the Outlook product?  Why make an
> > > > organization with
> > > > Macs go through so many hoops?  It's not like they have to
> > > > code from scratch.
> > > > It makes no sense.  The whole idea is to make the products
> > > across both
> > > > platforms the same or mostly the same.  They didn't take Word
> > > > or Excel,
> > > > retool it, take out some important features and call it
> > > > something else, did
> > > > they?  Keerist!!
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 4:02 PM
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Subject: Re: New Entourage
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Depends on how one defines Exchange aware. If by Exchange
> > > > > aware, you mean
> > > > > 'it's Outlook' then no. If understanding free/busy and
> > > and automatic
> > > > > configuration of address book and other account settings to
> > > > > support Exchange
> > > > > qualifies, then maybe.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > From: "Erik Sojka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 15:29:57 -0400
> > > > > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > Subject: RE: New Entourage
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I haven't looked at it yet, but it wouldn't be
> > > > > Exchange-aware if it was,
> > > > > > right?  When we looked at this for our lone Mac user ~18
> > > > > months ago we had to
> > > > > > settle for the previous version of Outlook and the user had
> > > > > to switch between
> > > > > > OSX for Office and OS9 for Outlook since we didn't want to
> > > > > open up IMAP or
> > > > > > POP3 for him.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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