I think your problem extends beyond 4th grade grammar skills to basic reading comprehension issues. My footnote re: 'not caring' was inference to troubleshooting my free/busy issue, not the clearly documented calendar and contact "issues" you could have resolved by having someone with a 6th grade education read you the FM.
I respond to over 6k posts in various forums on average each year. Only in a minor subset of them to I recommend people RTFM or STFW. I guess your egregious and obvious lack of research or effort earned your post a place in that subset. BTW, Footnoting empty air, while humorous, serves only to further demonstrate the failure of the public schools in the community where you grew up. > From: "Mike Carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 16:11:29 -0500 > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: New Entourage > > [1] I hate grammar Nazi's. This is email, not English class. G37 0V3R 17!! > > [2] I did RTFM. I guess I just didn't get to the part about Public Folders > not showing up correctly. I figured since I was browsing through the recent > posts, I would just ask a simple question and see what others results were > before I went home to try and figure it out. I installed it last night, set > up the account and looked at the public folders. About 10 minutes of time > spent so far. As far as you being too important, I wasn't referring to the > free/busy server issue, I was referring to this: > >>>> [3] And I don't really care all that much because I'm playing with > cooler >>>> Exchange tools for both the PC and Mac at the moment than Entourage, > which >>>> at the moment is working 'good enough' for my needs. > > If you don't really care, why even reply? > > [3] If everyone RTFM from front to back before they even installed the app, > these lists would be little more than haiku Fridays. I think you need to get > off your high horse. If your only worth while response is going to be RTFM, > then why bother sending an email? > > -Mike Carlson > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.uselessthoughts.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Scharff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:32 PM > Subject: Re: New Entourage > > >> It's "you're" not "your". And don't blame me for your inability to RTFM. >> This is indeed a peer support newsgroup; if you don't like my responses > feel >> free to add me to your killfile. I couldn't care less. >> >> Indicating I don't have time to go troubleshoot free/busy issues on my >> machine is hardly an attempt to blow off about how important I am. I was >> simply pointing out the only unexpected issue I've seen with the Exchange >> update for Entourage. The "issue" you describe seems to be expected > behavior >> based on the help files, but I guess you're too important to read those > and >> need the rest of us to do your work for you. >> >> >>> From: "Mike Carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 15:08:13 -0500 >>> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Subject: Re: New Entourage >>> >>> Well your a happy guy. Thanks for the great answer there. For a minute I >>> thought this a group to help each other out, not blow off about how >>> important we are. >>> >>> Since I am not at home and not near a Mac with Entourage installed, I > cant >>> really read the help file right now. I figured if you didn't see the > same >>> issue I would dig further, if you didn't see the same issue, I wouldn't >>> worry about it right now. >>> >>> I would figure the appropriate response would be: >>> >>> 1. I don't have any public folders of calendar or contact type so I cant >>> test it >>> >>> OR >>> >>> 2. Yes/No >>> >>> Since you were so helpful, I wont comment on my status of the free/busy >>> server thing either since I have cooler things to play as well. >>> >>> =) >>> >>> -Mike Carlson >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> http://www.uselessthoughts.com >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Chris Scharff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:48 PM >>> Subject: Re: New Entourage >>> >>> >>>> Do I see.... Have you read the help files yet? The client is working as > I >>>> would expect it to work for me at the moment based on my reading of the >>> help >>>> files. With the exception of the free/busy server which I haven't had > time >>>> to look into.[1] >>>> >>>> [1] Since Macs aren't supported on my network, it has pretty low >>>> priority.[2] >>>> [2] Plus it's my Mac, which puts it even lower on the priority list.[3] >>>> [3] And I don't really care all that much because I'm playing with > cooler >>>> Exchange tools for both the PC and Mac at the moment than Entourage, > which >>>> at the moment is working 'good enough' for my needs. >>>> >>>>> From: "Mike Carlson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 14:24:45 -0500 >>>>> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> Subject: Re: New Entourage >>>>> >>>>> Do you see the same issues of Calendar or Contact type public folders >>>>> looking like IMAP folders and not actual contacts or calendar entries? >>>>> >>>>> -Mike Carlson >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> http://www.uselessthoughts.com >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Chris Scharff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:05 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: New Entourage >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> It works just fine in E2K. The Entourage help files contain quite a > bit >>> of >>>>>> information, might try reading those for what the expected >>> functionality >>>>> is. >>>>>> >>>>>>> From: "Atkinson, Daniel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 17:18:53 +0100 >>>>>>> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> Subject: RE: New Entourage >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ok, can anyone confirm how it works with E2K? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> With 5.5 you get what looks like an IMAP connection... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> Sent: 06 August 2003 16:41 >>>>>>> To: Exchange Discussions >>>>>>> Subject: RE: New Entourage >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Its designed for E2K or higher >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:37 AM >>>>>>> To: Exchange Discussions >>>>>>> Subject: RE: New Entourage >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I got the same results you did, using Entourage with an Exchange 5.5 >>>>> server. >>>>>>> Does it maybe work better with 2000? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Peter >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Mike Carlson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 5:38 >>>>>>> To: Exchange Discussions >>>>>>> Subject: Re: New Entourage >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I myself don't like the Entourage update for Office X. I don't get >>>>> anything >>>>>>> more than I did with IMAP it seems. Any public folders that are set > to >>>>> be of >>>>>>> Calendar type or Contact type don't show up correctly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is there a list of specific benefits of the update over just using >>> IMAP? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Mike Carlson >>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> http://www.uselessthoughts.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Atkinson, Daniel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:11 AM >>>>>>> Subject: RE: New Entourage >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm thinking about trying out citrix.... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>> Sent: 05 August 2003 19:44 >>>>>>>>> To: Exchange Discussions >>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: New Entourage >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So are OSX Macs therefore doomed to OWA, or is there an > alternative? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:44 PM >>>>>>>>> To: Exchange Discussions >>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: New Entourage >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think they did away with Outlook because they were in the >>>>>>>>> semi-absurd situation of maintaining three entirely different >>>>>>>>> mail clients for the Mac, none of which made everyone, happy, >>>>>>>>> and two of which weren't OS X native, so they needed major >>>>>>>>> upgrades, and were free. I don't find it at all >>>>>>>>> incomprehensable that they'd concentrate their resources on >>>>>>>>> the product that generates some revenue. As far as >>>>>>>>> Entourage's new Exchange awareness goes, it's about what >>>>>>>>> you'd expect from a point upgrade. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -Peter >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:25 >>>>>>>>> To: Exchange Discussions >>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: New Entourage >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't doubt it. That makes perfect business sense. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:43 AM >>>>>>>>>> To: Exchange Discussions >>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: New Entourage >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My personal opinion is that they did away with Outlook for >>>>>>>>>> the Mac because >>>>>>>>>> OS X, especially Jaguar (10.2.x) is the first OS with a >>>>>>>>>> legitimate chance of >>>>>>>>>> displacing Microsoft from their dominance of the desktop. >>>>>>>>> It meets the >>>>>>>>>> requirements of having Microsoft Office (Word/Excel/etc). >>>>>>>>>> Therefore, the >>>>>>>>>> only missing app is a full blown Outlook client. Its >>>>>>>>>> Microsoft's only way to >>>>>>>>>> stop the tide without giving up their entire Mac offering. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Roger >>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>>> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP >>>>>>>>>> Sr. Systems Administrator >>>>>>>>>> Inovis Inc. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>> From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:11 AM >>>>>>>>>>> To: Exchange Discussions >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: New Entourage >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This is more venting than any serious question: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> What about MAPI? (Outlook for OfficeX-1) >>>>>>>>>>> What about RPC over HTTP? (I know that would have to be coded >>>>>>>>>>> from scratch) >>>>>>>>>>> You must enable IMAP on your Exchange server? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Why did they get rid of the Outlook product? Why make an >>>>>>>>>>> organization with >>>>>>>>>>> Macs go through so many hoops? It's not like they have to >>>>>>>>>>> code from scratch. >>>>>>>>>>> It makes no sense. The whole idea is to make the products >>>>>>>>>> across both >>>>>>>>>>> platforms the same or mostly the same. They didn't take Word >>>>>>>>>>> or Excel, >>>>>>>>>>> retool it, take out some important features and call it >>>>>>>>>>> something else, did >>>>>>>>>>> they? Keerist!! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 4:02 PM >>>>>>>>>>>> To: Exchange Discussions >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: New Entourage >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Depends on how one defines Exchange aware. If by Exchange >>>>>>>>>>>> aware, you mean >>>>>>>>>>>> 'it's Outlook' then no. If understanding free/busy and >>>>>>>>>> and automatic >>>>>>>>>>>> configuration of address book and other account settings to >>>>>>>>>>>> support Exchange >>>>>>>>>>>> qualifies, then maybe. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Erik Sojka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>>>>> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 15:29:57 -0400 >>>>>>>>>>>> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: New Entourage >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't looked at it yet, but it wouldn't be >>>>>>>>>>>> Exchange-aware if it was, >>>>>>>>>>>> right? When we looked at this for our lone Mac user ~18 >>>>>>>>>>>> months ago we had to >>>>>>>>>>>> settle for the previous version of Outlook and the user had >>>>>>>>>>>> to switch between >>>>>>>>>>>> OSX for Office and OS9 for Outlook since we didn't want to >>>>>>>>>>>> open up IMAP or >>>>>>>>>>>> POP3 for him. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>> List posting FAQ: >>>>>>>>> http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm >>>>>>>>>>>> Web Interface: >>>>>>>>>>>> http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t >>>>>>>>>>> ext_mode=&lang=english >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>>> Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> > _________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> List posting FAQ: > http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm >>>>>>>>>>> Web Interface: >>>>>>>>>>> http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t >>>>>>>>>> ext_mode=&lang=english >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>> Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> List posting FAQ: > http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm >>>>>>>>>> Web Interface: >>>>>>>>>> http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t >>>>>>>>> ext_mode=&lang=english >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>> Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm >>>>>>>>> Web Interface: >>>>>>>>> http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t >>>>>>>> ext_mode=&lang >>>>>>>> =english >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>> Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> This message is private or privileged. 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