I try to lead by example.
> -----Original Message----- > From: Ely, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 21 August 2003 15:31 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. > > And so it begins... > > At least Robert spelled *plonk* correctly... <G> > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 10:31 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. > > Well you certainly are persuasive. > > *plonk* > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Lawrence, Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 21 August 2003 14:57 > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. > > > > What an asshole > > > > Thank you, > > Mitchell D. Lawrence > > Network Administrator/Systems Analyst > > **<Good|Cheap|Fast> (Pick Two)** > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 8:55 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. > > > > Bite me. If I told you that you should run eseutil on your > databases > > just because "I" think your database is corrupt, without > any reasoning > > why I thought it was corrupt, would you? I certainly won't. > > > > John responded to my response with what seemed to be a well > though out > > answer. You, however, seem to have no clue. > > > > > > Ben Winzenz > > Network Engineer > > Gardner & White > > (317) 581-1580 ext 418 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Lawrence, Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Posted At: > > Thursday, August 21, 2003 8:35 AM Posted To: > > Exchange (Swynk) > > Conversation: 3 Layers of Virus protection. > > Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. > > > > > > He did seem a bit defensive didn't he? > > > > Thank you, > > Mitchell D. Lawrence > > Network Administrator/Systems Analyst > > **<Good|Cheap|Fast> (Pick Two)** > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 8:32 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. > > > > I understood that you had not scanned the Exchange files > with a file > > based AV product. However, if you have a product that runs > for a long > > time, then suddenly stops working (locking up the server, > > etc) then the > > server starts working again when you take the product off, > you should > > look at the points of intersection as to where a problem may have > > developed. In this case, your message databases. > > > > -1018 errors don't have to be recorded to have a problem inside the > > database. > > > > John Matteson > > Geac Corporate ISS > > (404) 239 - 2981 > > Atlanta, Georgia, USA. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Posted At: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:04 AM Posted To: Exchange > > Discussion List > > Conversation: 3 Layers of Virus protection. > > Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. > > > > > > I don't have a corrupted database. Why would you or what > leads you to > > make that assumption? I have no 1018 errors, I have no > event logs of > > any kind that point to any database errors. The problem has not > > re-occurred since removing the AV software. Like I said > before, I did > > not have the file-level AV scanning the databases. > > > > If you are going to make a claim such as I should run maintenance, > > back it up with the reasons why. Not just saying you think I have > > database corruption. Tell me why you think I have corruption. > > > > > > Ben Winzenz > > Network Engineer > > Gardner & White > > (317) 581-1580 ext 418 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: > > Wednesday, August 20, 2003 8:46 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) > > Conversation: 3 Layers of Virus protection. > > Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. > > > > > > Ben: > > > > Sounds like you may have a corrupted database. Have you thought > about > > running maintenance on the server? > > > > John Matteson > > Geac Corporate ISS > > (404) 239 - 2981 > > Atlanta, Georgia, USA. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Posted At: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 9:28 AM Posted To: Exchange > > Discussion List > > Conversation: 3 Layers of Virus protection. > > Subject: RE: 3 Layers of Virus protection. > > > > > > We had been running 3 layers until it seems that Symantec's product > > for Exchange 2000 (coupled with Corp Ed as file level) > locked up the > > server a couple of times. I can't prove it was Symantec, but I > > removed all AV off our Exchange server, and it hasn't had a problem > > since. And yes, I'm not stupid enough to scan the Exchsrvr > > directories with file-based scanners. Now, we are only running 2. > > SAV for SMTP Gateways, and Desktop. > > > > > > Ben Winzenz > > Network Engineer > > Gardner & White > > (317) 581-1580 ext 418 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: > Wednesday, > > August 20, 2003 7:39 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) > > Conversation: 3 Layers of Virus protection. > > Subject: 3 Layers of Virus protection. > > > > > > I was curious how many have 3 layers of protection for their email > > systems. > > My current assignment has me at a place where they are comfortable > > with desktop and a set of SMTP servers doing virus and > spam. Desktop > > is Symantec and Trend on the SMTP servers. My gut feeling > is to also > > protect the IS stores too. 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