<groan> <slapping knee> Eric Fretz
L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -----Original Message----- From: Candee Vaglica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 11:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 <makes popcorn> -----Original Message----- From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:27 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 It's raining Manna! Hallelujah! > -----Original Message----- > From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 11:20 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > That's like manna from heaven! > > Thanks Erik. > > Eric Fretz > > L-3 Communications > ComCept Division > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > Rockwall, TX 75032 > tel: 972.772.7501 > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 10:10 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > Read, understand and read again the MS Exchange Backup and Disaster > Recovery Whitepaper. Link to it is in the FAQ or is google-able. > > Then read it again. > > If you need to recover a single mailbox (a relatively unlikely > occurrence if you follow the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method - also in > the > FAQ) you can do > the full restore to another server, then extract out the > needed mailbox and > merge it into the live server store, affecting no other users. > > Read the Whitepaper! > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 9:09 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > > > > I agree. Although, what happens when an idiot user trashes their > > inbox and then convienently forgets to tell me until after the 1 > > week > retention > > period? Restoring the entire store would be a bad idea(tm) because > > it was set everybody back to the state the were in when the backup > > was made, right? > > > > I agree Brick backups are bad idea, I just don't have any better > > one's at the moment. > > > > Eric Fretz > > > > L-3 Communications > > ComCept Division > > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > > Rockwall, TX 75032 > > tel: 972.772.7501 > > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 8:06 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > > > > Ok, but what is BLB going to do for you? If you backup the whole > > store at once the normal way, you are going to be back up and > > running a heck of a lot > > faster than if you had to restore mailboxes one by one. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz > > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 6:01 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > > Murphy's law says that any working device can crap out and any > > moment. This box is running on a gateway 1U server with no RAID > > drives. > > All it takes is > > one hardware failure on a drive to take out the Private > store and I am > > screwed. This company doesn't even have any tape drives that are > > large enough to hold a backup of the mailboxes. I've had to use > > Backup-to-disk > > folders on other servers to get space to hold the backups. > > Yes, I know I > > need tape drives. Yes, I know that I need backup exec 9 (and > > the exchange > > agent). Those are all planned purchased in Q1 of '04. > > > > > > > > Eric Fretz > > > > L-3 Communications > > ComCept Division > > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > > Rockwall, TX 75032 > > tel: 972.772.7501 > > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:41 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > > > > It could tank at any moment then this means you should use brick > > level backups. Where did you hear that or am i missing something > > > > > > From: Eric Fretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:35:21 -0600 > > > > I've inherited this IT environment and I can't spend any money until > > Jan. 5th. Oh, by the way, this exchange box as not been backed up > > since it was > > built 2.5 years ago! Brick backups are start because this > > box could tank at > > any moment. I'm purchasing Veritas BE 9 in January, but I > > cannot get it > > until then. > > > > I might have a trial copy of BE 9 and I can use until then, though. > > > > > > Eric Fretz > > > > L-3 Communications > > ComCept Division > > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > > Rockwall, TX 75032 > > tel: 972.772.7501 > > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:14 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > > > > You're not going to like this answer, but brick backup is a great > > big kludgy crutch for administrators who insist on managing their > > Exchange environment > > like they would a Microsoft Mail environment. Quit depending on it. > > > > http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm > > > > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP > > Freelance E-Mail Philosopher > > Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz > > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:16 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > > For those of you with Veritas (Or Seagate) Backup Exec, I have a > > problem with restoring individual user mailboxes. Everytime I try > > to restore an > > individuals mailbox, the job copies 9088 bytes and then > > hangs. It never > > fails or gives an error message. > > > > My mail server is Exchange 5.5 standard running on a Windows 2000 > > Server > > (SP4) with Veritas Backup Exec v8.5. > > > > Thanks, > > Eric Fretz > > > > L-3 Communications > > ComCept Division > > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > > Rockwall, TX 75032 > > tel: 972.772.7501 > > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Web Interface: > > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t > ext_mode=&lang > > =english > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Web Interface: > > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t > ext_mode=&lang > > =english > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Web Interface: > > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t > ext_mode=&lang > > =english > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Set yourself up for fun at home! 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