Dude, STFU. --steve
> -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 3:58 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 > > > Yes, we did a phenomenal job for Marathon and Microsoft, without or > knowledge, chose to include us in their case study about Marathon. > > > http://www.infonition.com/marathon.shtml > > > > Interesting. =20 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 2:31 PM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > As a Microsoft Partner, does your company get any freebies? > > >=20 > > > =20 > > >=20 > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 2:18 PM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 > > >=20 > > > Alright, this is a good question. Bottom line is that if, as=20 > > > the hiring > > > body, you don't care then ethics are irrelevant in your=20 > > > decision and you do > > > what you want. Ethics do not have to be the end all, be all=20 > > > of decision > > > making. And, it is also absolutely not the case that > MVP's will always > > > recommend Microsoft software for their own personal gain. > > >=20 > > > You are exactly correct, you have final say about what you=20 > > > feel is and is > > > not relevant about your hiring decisions. But, this does not=20 > > > change the > > > situation that the MVP title is a real or perceived conflict=20 > > > of interest. > > > Of course it is, but whether or not you care is up to you. > > >=20 > > > > My company, Consolidated Widgets, Inc., has previously > decided to = > > =3D=20 > > > > standardize on MS software at all levels. When it comes=20 > > > time to make=20 > > > > hiring =3D decisions, whether for FTEs or for conslutants,=20 > > > how should I=20 > > > > proceed? Let's take =3D the example of an Exchange=20 > > > deployment project.=20 > > > > =3D20 > > > >=20 > > > > First thing to be decided:=3D20 > > > > Do I want a generic technologist? > > > > Do I want an unrelated technology guru? > > > > Do I want a Windows/Exchange guru? > > > >=20 > > > > Assuming I choose the last option: > > > > Do I want someone who has heard of Exchange and may be > able to help=20 > > > > with =3D my deployment after reading some books? > > > > Do I want someone who is an expert, and can demonstrate their=20 > > > > expertise somehow? > > > >=20 > > > > The demonstration of the expertise is all that the MVP=20 > > > status is, IMO. =20 > > > > =3D You don't attain MVP status by sending in a bunch > of cereal box=20 > > > > tops, as one =3D can do to get an MCSE. =3D20 > > > >=20 > > > > You whole premise is that an employee/conslutant with > an MVP will=20 > > > > automatically recommend technology from their masters *for=20 > > > their own =3D=20 > > > > personal gain*. I don't see this being the case. If > I'm hiring Ed=20 > > > > (to use him =3D as an > > > > example) to help with my Exchange migration, I've already=20 > > > made the =3D=20 > > > > decision to use that MS technology. At that point, I > want the best=20 > > > > person I can =3D find and afford. Why hire a > consultant, if not for = > > > > > > their knowledge? > > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > > Web Interface: > > > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=3Dexchange&t > > ext_mode=3D&lang > > =3Denglish > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Web Interface: > > > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=3Dexchange &text_mode=3D= > &lang=3D > english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
