Yes, we did a phenomenal job for Marathon and Microsoft, without or knowledge, chose to include us in their case study about Marathon.
> http://www.infonition.com/marathon.shtml > > Interesting. =20 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 2:31 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 > >=20 > >=20 > > As a Microsoft Partner, does your company get any freebies? > >=20 > > =20 > >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 2:18 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Migrating from GroupWise 6.5 > >=20 > > Alright, this is a good question. Bottom line is that if, as=20 > > the hiring > > body, you don't care then ethics are irrelevant in your=20 > > decision and you do > > what you want. Ethics do not have to be the end all, be all=20 > > of decision > > making. And, it is also absolutely not the case that MVP's will always > > recommend Microsoft software for their own personal gain. > >=20 > > You are exactly correct, you have final say about what you=20 > > feel is and is > > not relevant about your hiring decisions. But, this does not=20 > > change the > > situation that the MVP title is a real or perceived conflict=20 > > of interest. > > Of course it is, but whether or not you care is up to you. > >=20 > > > My company, Consolidated Widgets, Inc., has previously decided to = > =3D=20 > > > standardize on MS software at all levels. When it comes=20 > > time to make=20 > > > hiring =3D decisions, whether for FTEs or for conslutants,=20 > > how should I=20 > > > proceed? Let's take =3D the example of an Exchange=20 > > deployment project.=20 > > > =3D20 > > >=20 > > > First thing to be decided:=3D20 > > > Do I want a generic technologist? > > > Do I want an unrelated technology guru? > > > Do I want a Windows/Exchange guru? > > >=20 > > > Assuming I choose the last option: > > > Do I want someone who has heard of Exchange and may be able to help=20 > > > with =3D my deployment after reading some books? > > > Do I want someone who is an expert, and can demonstrate their=20 > > > expertise somehow? > > >=20 > > > The demonstration of the expertise is all that the MVP=20 > > status is, IMO. =20 > > > =3D You don't attain MVP status by sending in a bunch of cereal box=20 > > > tops, as one =3D can do to get an MCSE. =3D20 > > >=20 > > > You whole premise is that an employee/conslutant with an MVP will=20 > > > automatically recommend technology from their masters *for=20 > > their own =3D=20 > > > personal gain*. I don't see this being the case. If I'm hiring Ed=20 > > > (to use him =3D as an > > > example) to help with my Exchange migration, I've already=20 > > made the =3D=20 > > > decision to use that MS technology. At that point, I want the best=20 > > > person I can =3D find and afford. Why hire a consultant, if not for = > > > > their knowledge? > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > >=20 > > _________________________________________________________________ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Web Interface: > > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=3Dexchange&t > ext_mode=3D&lang > =3Denglish > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=3Dexchange&text_mode=3D= > &lang=3D > english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

