You're looking at the wrong direction - inbound is where the problems can
lie. You don't have control between the sender and your gateway. IMO, that's
too much of a risk for any but the smallest companies to take.

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Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shotton Jolyon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 12:20 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Outsourcing email?
> 
> 
> No, it's not bunk.
> 
> You care about more and that's great but if, like the 
> previous poster, all
> you care about is that "Once it's picked up by a server from 
> my gateway
> machine, it's out of my control, and also no longer my 
> worry." then the
> presence in the chain of a third party is not significant.
> 
> Your company, I'm sure, has very good reason to want this 
> level of control
> and very good reason for ensuring it retains that control no 
> matter what the
> cost but it is not typical.
> 
> We might all be safer and happier for having our arms round 
> as much of the
> process as possible, as you do, but it's not practical for 
> everyone and
> other simply don't care.
> 
> At some point you have to let go and trust that all will be 
> well, it's just
> a question of when you decide / want / have to do that.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 23 December 2003 16:28
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Outsourcing email?
> 
> 
> That's complete bunk.
> 
> I have complete control over where mail entering and leaving 
> my networks is
> delivered, as well as having full logs of those transactions.
> 
> Any system sending mail to inovis.com will route to one of 4 
> boxes under our
> control - I control the publication of the MX records that 
> point to the 4
> boxes which we control. By putting Postini (or any mail 
> outsourcer) into
> that flow, I have to publish MX records pointing to boxes outside my
> control.
> 
> My systems have control of the mail until its handed off to 
> the systems that
> the receivers have designated as responsible for their mail. 
> 
> In this schenario, I have as much control over email traffic 
> as possible.
> Putting an ASP SPAM service in the middle creates a situation 
> in which you
> don't have control over your own mail delivery, and that's 
> not something
> which my company is willing to give up.
> 
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