On Tuesday 06 February 2001 17:11, Praedor Tempus wrote:
> Actually, I was suggesting a software emulation of what a Quicknet card
> does. It would still have to do what the Quicknet card does and make use of
> net2phone switch/servers or dialpad servers for the IP-to-PSTN part.
>
> It MIGHT be possible to get dialpad to FIX their broken java app so that it
> works for all java-enabled clients (What the FU*K'S the point of using java
> in the first place if it is intended for Windoze only?  The whole point of
> java's existence is platform independence!  Frickin' idiots!) - or for
> Altoine to jigger it and fix the plugin himself...

Right on!!!
>
> I rather hesitate for the moment to purchase a Quicknet card until after I
> see what net2phone is going to do with eliminating the free service and
> going to fee for service.  Since the Quicknet card makes partial use of
> net2phone servers, I would want to see what sort of charging scheme comes
> out of net2phone.  On the other hand, if dialpad gets fixed (Altoine? :-) )
> then the situation is mitigated for now.  Or if a totally new
> client/emulator were to be written, it could be made to NOT use net2phone
> servers and use others instead, and avoid the net2phone charges.
>
> The actual hardware for IP-to-PSTN intercommunication is quite pricey (not
> the client-level Quicknet card, the actual switching hardware/hub or
> whatever you call it), 

YOU DONT NEED ANYTHING EXCEPT THE F#$%^&* CARD!!!!!
READ, READ, READ THE DOCS!!!!!

I just thought it more likely that a company
> (Mandrake, Redhat, Suse, a new startup, or all of the above) could setup a
> service, either paid for with very low per minute usage or via advertising.
>  It would, as I said, work with ANY client OS/system and would be able to
> successfully and directly compete with the two main services (dialpad and
> net2phone...the only two I know of for this type of thing).  Hell, BOTH of
> these companies are forsaking Mac users as well as ALL unix-type users. 
> That is not an insignificant number of people, all told.
>
> On Tuesday 06 February 2001 08:33, Rusty Carruth you wrote:
> > "Praedor Tempus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > It would be nice to see a non-hardware based answer.  It would not be
> > > optimal but it would be cheaper and easier for many people.
> >
> > Um, I'm confused.
> >
> > We need to connect from the internet using ip to the PSTN using
> > analog/voice.
> >
> > Using software only????
> >
> > I know we can do a LOT with software, but there's this little problem
> > of getting the bits across to the PSTN 'network' that will require at
> > least a little hardware ;-)
>
> [...]

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