Wow, this is crazy. Maybe the following will explain
client -> software app -> ISP -> Internet -> Service Provider -> VOIP
Gateway -> PSTN
client = You, the linux user
software app = doesn't exist properly yet (JAVA crap)
ISP = well, you know
Internet = duh,
Service Provider = Provides billing, advertising, routing, lots of
bandwith to the internet.
VOIP Gateway = takes the packets from the service provider, and converts
them into voice, and switches that voice world wide, via the standard PSTN
Tandem Switching, usually using SS7 switching.
So, the client shouldn't need to buy crap. The service provider needs to
be the one who provides the client free stuff, and just puts browser
banners up with girl butt or pokemon stuff, to pay for the server farm and
bandwidth (anyone price an OC-12 lately?). And, the VOIP gateway folks
are the ones that are going to bill the crap out of you for all those
calls, because they have the million dollar loan to pay off!
Read this link }
http://www.innomedia.com/ip_telephony/voip/index.htm
--- "Tricia C. Sesar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday 06 February 2001 17:11, Praedor Tempus wrote:
> > Actually, I was suggesting a software emulation of what a Quicknet
> card
> > does. It would still have to do what the Quicknet card does and make
> use of
> > net2phone switch/servers or dialpad servers for the IP-to-PSTN part.
> >
> > It MIGHT be possible to get dialpad to FIX their broken java app so
> that it
> > works for all java-enabled clients (What the FU*K'S the point of using
> java
> > in the first place if it is intended for Windoze only? The whole
> point of
> > java's existence is platform independence! Frickin' idiots!) - or for
> > Altoine to jigger it and fix the plugin himself...
>
> Right on!!!
> >
> > I rather hesitate for the moment to purchase a Quicknet card until
> after I
> > see what net2phone is going to do with eliminating the free service
> and
> > going to fee for service. Since the Quicknet card makes partial use
> of
> > net2phone servers, I would want to see what sort of charging scheme
> comes
> > out of net2phone. On the other hand, if dialpad gets fixed (Altoine?
> :-) )
> > then the situation is mitigated for now. Or if a totally new
> > client/emulator were to be written, it could be made to NOT use
> net2phone
> > servers and use others instead, and avoid the net2phone charges.
> >
> > The actual hardware for IP-to-PSTN intercommunication is quite pricey
> (not
> > the client-level Quicknet card, the actual switching hardware/hub or
> > whatever you call it),
>
> YOU DONT NEED ANYTHING EXCEPT THE F#$%^&* CARD!!!!!
> READ, READ, READ THE DOCS!!!!!
>
> I just thought it more likely that a company
> > (Mandrake, Redhat, Suse, a new startup, or all of the above) could
> setup a
> > service, either paid for with very low per minute usage or via
> advertising.
> > It would, as I said, work with ANY client OS/system and would be able
> to
> > successfully and directly compete with the two main services (dialpad
> and
> > net2phone...the only two I know of for this type of thing). Hell,
> BOTH of
> > these companies are forsaking Mac users as well as ALL unix-type
> users.
> > That is not an insignificant number of people, all told.
> >
> > On Tuesday 06 February 2001 08:33, Rusty Carruth you wrote:
> > > "Praedor Tempus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > It would be nice to see a non-hardware based answer. It would not
> be
> > > > optimal but it would be cheaper and easier for many people.
> > >
> > > Um, I'm confused.
> > >
> > > We need to connect from the internet using ip to the PSTN using
> > > analog/voice.
> > >
> > > Using software only????
> > >
> > > I know we can do a LOT with software, but there's this little
> problem
> > > of getting the bits across to the PSTN 'network' that will require
> at
> > > least a little hardware ;-)
> >
> > [...]
>
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