I am the guilty party who started this thread, and I wish to apologise
to all readers for my rant. It does seem to have elicited some similar
feelings from other subscribers though. My attitude when sending that
original message was the result of a 14 hr day spent: Upgrading to 8.1,
blowing off 8.1 and installing from scratch (keeping only /HOME),
blowing off 8.1 and totally repartitioning the drive, THEN re-installing
for the third time. The result of all this was: No sound, wrong video
card & display installed, wrong PCMCIA NIC installed, a large number of
programs missing from the Dekstop Menu's (even though I "installed
everything"), desktops dropping out at random (working in KDE, then
FLICKER,FLICKER,GONE. I am sitting at the command prompt login)

I tend to assume that a newer version of an OS, will have all the
capabilities of an older version, plus nice extras. MDK7.2 autodetected
all the components. Even when it didn't quite recognize the component,
it was able to set up parameters close enough to work. I restored my
laptop to 7.2 in under 2 hours, with a working sound card, proper video
card, and PCMCIA NIC, all detected and working automagically.

FWIW, my laptop
AMD2-K6 380 mhz
160MB RAM
4.2 GB HDD (IBM)
Mostly ACER MB components
Neomagic Video
Neomagic Audio
7.2 EVEN detected and set up my Rockwell WinModem!!

My experiences to date with this laptop:
Win95 Plug & Pray 
Win98 Plug & Pray
MDK 8.1 Plug & "What the..."
MDK 7.2 Plug & play, and drop, and recover, and run battery down &
recover, and open WIndBlows LookOut virii-(JUST BECAUSE I CAN...and it
pisses off co-workers ;^). )etc etc

Ken







> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Hawkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 4:49 AM
> To: expert
> Subject: [expert] 8.1 Piece of Crap!
> 
> Just to vent:
> 
> Had a perfectly functioning 7.2 on my laptop. That was easier than any
> other OS (windows or linux) I tried. Total plug & play.
> 
> Then I decided to try 8.1 for all the updates and extras...what a piece
> of SH!T!
> 
> I know a lot of people worked long and hard on this, and I have been a
> Mandrake supporter since V.7.x
> 
> I tell people how easy the install is, how they don't need to be a linux
> guru to get busy doing stuff. Robust, stable, versatile.
> 
> Now I have to turn around and say to those people, whatever you
> do....DON'T upgrade to MDK8.
> 
> I am not a guru, but neither am I a novice; I pissed a whole day away
> trying to have desktops that didn't go flakey, and Multi-Media that
> worked..No such luck. Now I am going to rollback to 7.2
> 
> If Mandrake is still trying to target the average desktop PC user, they
> will have to totally rethink the installation process for 8.
> 
> Version 8 is a step BACKWARD as far as ease of installation and use go.
> 
> Ken
> 
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