Actually, Mandrake sells the standard version of linux without the source 
with it, but that don't violate GPL as Mandrake has it available to download.

Harold

On Thursday 07 March 2002 09:02 am, you wrote:
> ( breathe... ) that one got me scared...
>
> anyway is there something we are supposed to do when we see
> companies violating GPL? contact the autor for the software? kill the
> company mascot? anything like that?
>
> > On Thu, 7 Mar 2002 00:47:35 -0800
> >
> > James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > All,
> > >
> > >
> > >    Here is comes.  A release of Mandrake without GPL or Source.  If you
> > > go to http://www.hp.com/security/products/linux/eval/
> > >
> > > You will find a 60 day timed copy of the iso (only way provided) that
> > > is a FULL working version of Linux.  No links are provided to source
> > > code for the GPL'd code anywhere. (see below for coment fromth the
> > > page.)
> >
> > If you had bothered to click the 'source code policy' link it takes you
> > to this page http://www.hp.com/security/products/linux/opensource/
> > and you would have seen this.
> >
> > " source code policy
> >
> > Modifications to the Linux kernel related to HP Secure OS Software for
> > Linux are made available as source code. The Multi-Compartment Gateway
> > Agent (MCGA), the implementation of the secure administration model, the
> > lockdown mechanism, key parts of the auditing mechanism, and utilities
> > for managing containment are not released as source code. In general, HP
> > intellectual property that resides in the user space of the operating
> > system is not made available as source code.
> >
> > HP makes the sources to the following available with HP Secure OS
> > Software for Linux:
> >
> >     * Modifications to the Linux kernel
> >     * Dynamically loaded kernel modules (DLKMs) for containment and audit
> >     * The audit daemon
> >
> > obtaining source code
> > Source code is provided with the product media, and as an added benefit
> > to the Linux community, HP provides the source code on its FTP site:
> >
> > ftp.hp.com/pub/security/hplx_source/"
> >
> >
> > I see nothing here that would violate GPL.
> > The source code for Any Mandrake pkgs, even if HP does not provide it,
> > would of course be available from Mandrake.
> >
> >
> >     Charles

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