as I understand it (and my only connection to MDK is that I purchase the 
software and support them with club membership) the 3 disk set, is free GPL 
software, and you are purchaseing only the media and a donation, not buying 
software


On Friday 08 March 2002 07:30, you wrote:
> On Thursday 07 March 2002 05:55 pm, you wrote:
> > On Thursday 07 March 2002 10:34, you wrote:
> > > Actually, Mandrake sells the standard version of linux without the
> > > source with it, but that don't violate GPL as Mandrake has it available
> > > to download.
> > >
> > > Harold
> >
> > I don't think they _sell_ with out including the source, thats what the
> > other 2 or three disk are that  you did not need from the powerpack
> > during the install. download is a different matter, since it is the GPL
> > version.
>
> I bought the standard version and got no cd with the source code on it..
> I got 2 CD's with the open source rpm's on it and 1 CD with a couple or 3
> commercial programs on it..
>
> Harold
>
> > > On Thursday 07 March 2002 09:02 am, you wrote:
> > > > ( breathe... ) that one got me scared...
> > > >
> > > > anyway is there something we are supposed to do when we see
> > > > companies violating GPL? contact the autor for the software? kill the
> > > > company mascot? anything like that?
> > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 7 Mar 2002 00:47:35 -0800
> > > > >
> > > > > James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > All,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >    Here is comes.  A release of Mandrake without GPL or Source. 
> > > > > > If you go to http://www.hp.com/security/products/linux/eval/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You will find a 60 day timed copy of the iso (only way provided)
> > > > > > that is a FULL working version of Linux.  No links are provided
> > > > > > to source code for the GPL'd code anywhere. (see below for coment
> > > > > > fromth the page.)
> > > > >
> > > > > If you had bothered to click the 'source code policy' link it takes
> > > > > you to this page
> > > > > http://www.hp.com/security/products/linux/opensource/ and you would
> > > > > have seen this.
> > > > >
> > > > > " source code policy
> > > > >
> > > > > Modifications to the Linux kernel related to HP Secure OS Software
> > > > > for Linux are made available as source code. The Multi-Compartment
> > > > > Gateway Agent (MCGA), the implementation of the secure
> > > > > administration model, the lockdown mechanism, key parts of the
> > > > > auditing mechanism, and utilities for managing containment are not
> > > > > released as source code. In general, HP intellectual property that
> > > > > resides in the user space of the operating system is not made
> > > > > available as source code.
> > > > >
> > > > > HP makes the sources to the following available with HP Secure OS
> > > > > Software for Linux:
> > > > >
> > > > >     * Modifications to the Linux kernel
> > > > >     * Dynamically loaded kernel modules (DLKMs) for containment and
> > > > > audit * The audit daemon
> > > > >
> > > > > obtaining source code
> > > > > Source code is provided with the product media, and as an added
> > > > > benefit to the Linux community, HP provides the source code on its
> > > > > FTP site:
> > > > >
> > > > > ftp.hp.com/pub/security/hplx_source/"
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I see nothing here that would violate GPL.
> > > > > The source code for Any Mandrake pkgs, even if HP does not provide
> > > > > it, would of course be available from Mandrake.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >     Charles

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