On Thursday 07 March 2002 10:34, you wrote:
> Actually, Mandrake sells the standard version of linux without the source
> with it, but that don't violate GPL as Mandrake has it available to
> download.
>
> Harold
I don't think they _sell_ with out including the source, thats what the other 
2 or three disk are that  you did not need from the powerpack during the 
install. download is a different matter, since it is the GPL version.


>
> On Thursday 07 March 2002 09:02 am, you wrote:
> > ( breathe... ) that one got me scared...
> >
> > anyway is there something we are supposed to do when we see
> > companies violating GPL? contact the autor for the software? kill the
> > company mascot? anything like that?
> >
> > > On Thu, 7 Mar 2002 00:47:35 -0800
> > >
> > > James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > All,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >    Here is comes.  A release of Mandrake without GPL or Source.  If
> > > > you go to http://www.hp.com/security/products/linux/eval/
> > > >
> > > > You will find a 60 day timed copy of the iso (only way provided) that
> > > > is a FULL working version of Linux.  No links are provided to source
> > > > code for the GPL'd code anywhere. (see below for coment fromth the
> > > > page.)
> > >
> > > If you had bothered to click the 'source code policy' link it takes you
> > > to this page http://www.hp.com/security/products/linux/opensource/
> > > and you would have seen this.
> > >
> > > " source code policy
> > >
> > > Modifications to the Linux kernel related to HP Secure OS Software for
> > > Linux are made available as source code. The Multi-Compartment Gateway
> > > Agent (MCGA), the implementation of the secure administration model,
> > > the lockdown mechanism, key parts of the auditing mechanism, and
> > > utilities for managing containment are not released as source code. In
> > > general, HP intellectual property that resides in the user space of the
> > > operating system is not made available as source code.
> > >
> > > HP makes the sources to the following available with HP Secure OS
> > > Software for Linux:
> > >
> > >     * Modifications to the Linux kernel
> > >     * Dynamically loaded kernel modules (DLKMs) for containment and
> > > audit * The audit daemon
> > >
> > > obtaining source code
> > > Source code is provided with the product media, and as an added benefit
> > > to the Linux community, HP provides the source code on its FTP site:
> > >
> > > ftp.hp.com/pub/security/hplx_source/"
> > >
> > >
> > > I see nothing here that would violate GPL.
> > > The source code for Any Mandrake pkgs, even if HP does not provide it,
> > > would of course be available from Mandrake.
> > >
> > >
> > >     Charles

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