civileme wrote:
 > J. Grant wrote:
 >
 >> Hello,
 >> I'm interested to know why "Commerical Apps CD1" is called that? As in
 >> actual fact the entire GNU/Linux Madrake distribution is commercial.
 >> Well, there is nothing wrong with commercialising high quality Free
 >> (open source) software. In fact very glad Madrake is 
commericialising it.
 >>
 >> Perhaps this should be renamed "Proprietry Apps CD1"? Currently its
 >> miss leading and some people might put in the wrong CD.
 >>
 >> JG
 >>
 > And if they do, urpmi will reject it and again ask for the correct disk.

Ranaming it internally as well as externally is what I meant.

 > Except that some rpms did not get put on the PWP CDs, the Install CDs
 > are the same as the download CDs, i.e. they are free software included
 > in the commercial box.  That does not make them commercial, because with
 > those CDs you have the following rights:
 >
 > 1. To use
 > 2. To modify for your own use (source code available)
 > 3. To redistribute (and to charge a reasonable copying fee)
 > 4. To redistribute modified copies (and to charge a reasonable 
copying fee)
 >
 > You also have the binding obligation to pass on those rights in any
 > redistribution.
 >
 > For that reason those install disks cannot be called commercial CDs.

I was under the impression that you were charging a fee for the box
total, not only charing for commerical cds and manuals and giving the
first 2 cds free. charging for distribution means it is commercial IMO,
unless mandrake has changed to being a non-profit charity organisation.

 > Now using the tools on those disks it is possible to make commercial
 > software which you can license differently, and many of the libraries
 > have a license that permits them to be included in a commercial package,
 > so IP for those who want it is still available.  The idea here was to
 > make available freely a powerful set of tools to stimulate progress or
 > to support research, and there's a worldwide community behind that.
 >
 > You may note that all the Mandrake-specific tools are copyrighted and
 > licensed under the GNU GPL or GPL2 or LGPL, as appropriate.  There is
 > nothing to stop a competitor from putting the tools or modified copies
 > of them into his distribution, or a new entry into the linux commercial
 > community based on MandrakeLinux.

So are you saying that 2 of the CDs in my power pack are not-commerical
but the rest are? and for that reason they should be the only ones 
labeled 'commerical'? Elaborate please.

 > It might be better to name them CD1-CD7, though.  The commercial CDs are
 > basically done by a different team...  People who negotiate with vendors
 > and people who package the apps have little overlap with the developers
 > of the downloadable CDs, and they obviously have many other duties, so
 > the nomenclature grew out of that for internal use.
 >
 > Civileme
 >

JG


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