On 08 Apr 2002 00:45:02 -0400
Lyvim Xaphir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Grabed a keyboard and said:

> On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 10:59, sda wrote:
> 
> > Oh so if one criticizes MandrakeSoft they're FUD throwers?
> > Comeon, if you cannot accept criticism wisely you're nothing
> > but a fool.
> > 
> > Did you even begin to figure out the math that this guy is
> > throwing around? It doesn't make sense that a business model
> > should be based on a subscription model, when the current
> > distro is availiable for free download. MandrakeSoft has to
> > realize that they will sooner rather than later need to make
> > the current version a "payfor" download only. Let users have
> > the last version or two behind only for free.
> > 
> > OH pleeze - you're nothing but a conspiracy theorist.
> > 
> > Mandrake deserves to take some hits and some of us
> > shareholders are watching carefully, although we do seem to be
> > a minority around here.
> 
> It truly is a pleasure to see that your disagree with this post.
> Given what you are and the attitudes that you have, it's always
> a litmus paper indicator that the correct attitudes are opposite
> where you stand; kind of like a broken compass that points south
> and the correct heading for the trip is north.  I appreciate
> your inadvertent mindless anti-contribution.
>  
>  
> LX

If i may a direct quote from the writings of Richard Stallman

<SNIP>
 Since "free" refers to freedom, not to price, there is no
contradiction between selling copies and free software. In fact,
the freedom to sell copies is crucial: collections of free
software sold on CD-ROMs are important for the community, and
selling them is an important way to raise funds for free software
development. Therefore, a program that people are not free to
include on these collections is not free software. 
</SNIP>

Full text available at 

http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/opensources/book/stallman.html

This is from the book Open Source the Unathourized White Papers.

  I'd also point you to My White paper at. 

http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/245/

If you want my full attitude on this.  

Finally to quote Heinlien "TNSTAAFL" There's no such thing as a
free lunch.  This list isn't even free.  I pay for it with
bandwidth and HOPEFULLY answering questions that I can, correctly.
 In return I get my questions answered.  I don't owe anyone an
answer, in the sense that "I asked a question one of you HAS to
answer"  Nor do I ask why someone wants the answer or how they
will use it. (Is this answer for home or corporate use?  I could
care.)  Someone has a question I have an answer I give it because
I want to.  

The fact is that the GPL is not a ticket to leach.  It is however
a ticket to ownership.  I own copies of Mandrake RedHat SuSe and
Redmond Linux.  I paid for the disks. Mostly with Cash, Sometimes
by agreeing to test and report the results of my testing. Either
way I pay.  

James
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