This time Vincent Danen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> becomes daring and writes:
> On Tuesday, November 12, 2002, at 07:28 PM, Vox wrote: > >>> Absolutely. I had the privilege of listening to Theo give a talk at >>> CanSec West 2000. Of course, he knocked Linux a lot (but had the >>> highest praise for OpenBSD, of course). It was still very >>> informative... and I can't say I disagree with him. >> >> That's the worse part of it all...it hurts to hear him, but I've not >> found many (if any) instances in which I can bash back at him >> because he's wrong :) > > Well, on a technical standpoint, no, he's not often wrong. At least > not in my dealings with him. From a social standpoint, well... let's > just say he and I don't often see eye to eye. I've had quite a number > of... ahem... discussions with Theo in the past that turned quite > muddy. I've been in 2 flamewars with Theo...not an experience I want to repeat :) >>>> Well, yes, that's true :) Tho I proly won't live it down with the >>>> other geeks here at the LUG if they notice I have that thing >>>> installed...bunch of FSF manics make RMS look conservative :) >>> >>> Bah. You can point fingers at them when they're running around trying >>> to patch bind and you're doing more productive things. Zealotry gets >>> you nowhere. >> >> Uhm...the latest BIND exploit doesn't affect bind9, right? :) And I >> agree with you...zealotry gets you nowhere...and I get enough >> bashing already with my use of nvidia drivers...but I can still >> enjoy warcraft3 and they can't ;) > > > No, it doesn't affect BIND9. However, there are other issues here, > and I'm extremely pissed with ISC at the moment. I'll boycott BIND in > any way I can. Nevermind the technical merits for not using BIND, > there are social merits here that need to be looked at. Uhm...I'd love to hear more about this. And as I told today a few of the geeks from the local LUG (about 60% of the LUG gets together in my home every day...high bandwidth + tons of nodes + wireless = geekhouse and everybody wants to be here :) and the bashing started fast <chuckle> :) I'll proly spend some time this weekend installing it...make the bashing have a reason ;) > And yes... zealotry is nothing. In fact, I think of myself as quite a > Linux activist, but I'd literally slash my throat if I thought I was > becoming a zealot. I appreciate many different operating systems for > the many things they provide; each has it's own strength and weakness. > For instance, I appreciate being able to play EverQuest on my Win2k > box. I also appreciate not being able to run anything of consequence > on the same box because then I'll appreciate my Linux boxes even more. > =) I don't have any winboxes around...but that's mostly because a) I'm not a gamer and b) the few games I enjoy (Diablo2 and WarCraft3) do work very well on winex. Only pain I have right now is that Civ3 stopped working in winex with the upgrade to 9.0...guess something to do with glibc or gcc or something...but I don't care enough to actually investigate or spend another 5 bucks to see if they have a newer version for mdk9 that works with Civ3 :) Vox -- Think of the Linux community as a niche economy isolated by its beliefs. Kind of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use _higher_ technology than everyone else. -- Donald B. Marti Jr.
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